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Alan H
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#1001 Postby Alan H » September 12th, 2018, 4:56 pm

Latest post of the previous page:

Anyone any idea why the Tories need to have a COBRA meeting about the implications of Brexit? Coffee? Did we vote for this?

Disaster looms: Cobra meet over no-deal Brexit
It has been claimed that secret meetings of the Cobra emergency committee are being held to prepare for the UK crashing out of the EU.

Usually Cobra – which stands for Cabinet Office Briefing Room A, where the group meets – is only convened in response to events that threaten national security like natural disasters or terrorist attacks.

Labour’s Anna McMorrin said the Cabinet Office was preparing for the “very real threat” of no deal by undertaking civil contingency planning and holding the meetings.

De facto deputy prime minister David Lidington did not deny the claim, saying it was right that the civil contingency secretariat plays an “active part in contingency planning for all eventualities”.

Ms McMorrin (Cardiff North) asked the Cabinet Office minister during departmental questions in the Commons: “We know the Cabinet Office is preparing for the very real threat that is no deal, with secret Cobra meetings and civil contingency planning.

“Business leaders are warning of the disaster of a no deal or a bad deal. Isn’t it about time we put this decision, the biggest facing our generation, back to the people for a people’s vote?”
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1002 Postby coffee » September 15th, 2018, 9:59 am

Electoral Commission got referendum law wrong over Vote Leave, court rules: Brexit News for Saturday 15 September

TODAY'S HEADLINES


Electoral Commission misled Vote Leave
Hammond suggested delaying Brexit
Labour would vote down any deal
Boris says UK must escape EU's ‘tractor beam’
Barnier wants 'MaxFac' down the Irish Sea

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... september/

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#1003 Postby coffee » September 16th, 2018, 4:37 pm

Theresa May warns EU she is still a ‘bloody difficult woman’ over Brexit: Brexit News for Sunday 16th September

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#1004 Postby Alan H » September 16th, 2018, 5:03 pm

coffee wrote:Theresa May warns EU she is still a ‘bloody difficult woman’ over Brexit: Brexit News for Sunday 16th September

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... september/

IFTFY: Theresa May warns EU she is still a ‘bloody stupid woman’ over Brexit
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1005 Postby Alan H » September 16th, 2018, 5:04 pm

But being difficult doesn't resolve the many difficult problems she has created for herself, does it, coffee?
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1006 Postby coffee » September 17th, 2018, 9:54 am

EU to concede use of technology to maintain frictionless Irish border: Brexit News for Monday 17th September



TODAY'S HEADLINES

EU to concede use of technology to maintain frictionless Irish border

Boris Johnson warns the EU’s existing Irish backstop would lead to ‘a total write-off of Brexit’

Theresa May declares: 'It's either my deal or no deal'

Michael Gove says Chequers plan is right ‘for now’

Nigel Farage to join cross-party tour of Britain drumming up support for a no-deal Brexit

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... september/


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#1007 Postby Alan H » September 17th, 2018, 10:50 am

That's hilarious, coffee. barcodes. The solution to all the Irish border problems (for there are more than one) is barcodes. Barcodes...
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1008 Postby Alan H » September 17th, 2018, 12:12 pm

People's Vote:
Battle lines over the Irish “backstop” have been well and truly drawn between Theresa May and Boris Johnson today, with the EU getting stuck in for good measure. The problem is everyone’s “solutions” have flaws and none look likely to be accepted by all sides.

Frustrated by Theresa May’s failure to come up with a better idea than her unworkable Chequers proposal, the EU has devised its own compromise aimed at “de-dramatising” customs checks between the EU and Northern Ireland, outlined in this FT report. This would trust UK officials - rather than the EU’s - to carry out checks on goods moving from British ports to Northern Ireland, deploying technology such as tracking with barcodes and signing companies up to “trusted trader” schemes.

But this is still in effect a customs border being erected in the Irish Sea, with a different customs regime between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK - albeit with checks happening in firms’ warehouses, at ports or on ferries. That’s exactly what the DUP, who prop up May’s government, say they cannot abide. It’ll take quite the feat of de-dramatisation to convince them.

https://www.peoples-vote.uk/marchforthemany?e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=17_sep_2018&n=6

Boris Johnson’s latest Telegraph column again attacks Chequers, and the Irish “backstop” in particular. Reading past the car-crash metaphors and pseudo-historical bombast about 1066, he makes the totally correct point that under Chequers the UK will become a “rules-taker”, because May wants a UK-wide approach for EU rules crucial to upholding the Good Friday peace settlement. The EU’s alternative, Johnson points out, amounts to “keeping Northern Ireland effectively in the EU” - something supporters of the union won’t like.

These realities won’t just bother the former foreign secretary. They will stick in the craw of patriotic pro-Europeans too. However, Johnson’s assertion that naive Brexiters such as himself were “taken in” by the December deal on Ireland, which he agreed to as a cabinet minister, is a bit rich. It looks more like he wasn’t on top of the detail and didn’t understand what he was signing up to at the time.

The other problem Johnson has is that his own solution - which involves checking goods away from the border - will not work. May was right when she told the BBC: “You don't solve the issue of no hard border by having a hard border 20km inside Ireland.” That’s still a hard border, with physical customs infrastructure - exactly what everyone has been trying to avoid to maintain Irish peace.

So, with no practical challengers, May feels understandably confident to say it’s either her deal or no deal. But of course there is a third way. Give the decision back to the UK public. Now they’ve seen the whole unworkable Brexit mess, and if they don’t want to choose between either being rule-taker or jeopardising peace in Ireland, they should be given the chance to say so with a People’s Vote.

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Gove admits it will be “blindfold” Brexit

There is actually a fourth Brexit option: the “Gove plan”. This is to reach a Chequers-style deal with the EU, kick out the prime minister, rip up her deal and go for an even harder Brexit. Michael Gove didn’t put it quite that bluntly. But the environment secretary did tell the BBC’s Andrew Marr yesterday that a future prime minister could choose to alter the relationship between the UK and the EU. He also damned Chequers with faint praise saying it was the right plan “for now”.

Gove’s comments underline the huge risk of a blindfold Brexit, where we quit the EU next year without any clarity over where we are going to end up and with the Conservative party still in civil war over our future. Keeping the population in the dark would be a democratic outrage. The alarm bells should ring particularly loudly in Northern Ireland. After all, if Theresa May agrees an Irish backstop and Gove then manages to rip up Chequers, the backstop will become the “frontstop” and all the flowery language about it never being used will be shown to be hot air.
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NHS staff turned out in London at the weekend to demand a People's Vote - because they know the damage Brexit can do to our health service. And if you've been fired up by our summer rallies, make sure you're in London on October 20 for the big one.

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And it wasn't just NHS workers calling for a People's Vote at Saturday's rally...

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Transition not long enough

Today saw the Brexit spotlight swing back onto the transition period, remember that? In March the UK and EU agreed 21-months after Brexit to thrash out and sign off their future relationship. That’s just too short, argues the Institute for Government think tank. Compare it to other big projects: the automatic pension enrolment programme, preparations for the London Olympics (both over a decade); digitising tax (five years).

Theresa May is being dishonest on her transition timing, presumably in an effort to put her Brextremist backbenchers at ease that we won’t stay in transition forever. But if she refuses to get some flexibility from the EU now while we still have a bit of leverage, by December 2020 we’ll either be desperately pleading for a transition extension (likely with much money and rule-taking involved) or preparing to crash out with no deal at all. Avoiding such a short-sighted shambles is exactly why the people need a vote on her Brexit deal.
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WATCH: This week's FFS Awards from For our Future's Sake - a fun look back at all the Brexit buffoonery of the last seven days.

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“The UK economy as a whole is set to grow at a snail's pace. Brexit uncertainty continues to weigh heavily on many firms, as most of the practical questions facing trading businesses remain unanswered.

"The drag effect on investment and trade would intensify in the event of a 'messy' and disorderly Brexit.”

Adam Marshall, director general of the British Chambers of Commerce
More Brexit news…


UK growth forecast trimmed by British Chambers of Commerce (BBC)

Four in 10 think British culture is undermined by multiculturalism (Guardian)

Health board says Brexit poses 'very high' risk of disruption(BBC)

Deutsche to shift more assets and ringfence UK unit after Brexit (FT £)

Celia Imrie says Brexit is a 'disaster' and that she would 'love' to reverse it (Independent)
Top Brexit commenthttps://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=JVrTuh89eqOCis53dYaEcM1DMZA7h9i4MMbCM8IqjoYVaso6UlhHBpi1R_RhEcYH9YV2Thp7p5mQuAKno4au9gUl02Zbm5zdoZ2Wciw1wPBos4n_iqThK9W-ZlxMAsVA2bxJeVtCfCcZOeAVhmydp1sBGvg8CZ5sOcp5kJL4e30&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=17_sep_2018&n=28


Sadiq Khan: The people must have another vote – to take back control of Brexit (Observer)

Imogen Ellis: Constructive ambiguity on Brexit must end. Labour should back a people’s vote now (LabourList)

Nick Robinson: My backseat Brexit interview with Theresa May(Sunday Times £)

Nick Clegg: With a Brexit deal in sight, Britain is entering a no man’s land (FT £)
Looking forward...


Today, Monday 17th September
- Parliament in recess for conference season
- Liberal Democrat autumn conference
10:00 Christine Lagarde presents IMF's annual evaluation of UK economy

Tomorrow, Tuesday 18th September
- Parliament in recess for conference season
- Liberal Democrat autumn conference
- Brexiters begin cross-country "chuck Chequers" campaign
10:00 Migration Advisory Committee report on EU migration post-Brexit published
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1009 Postby coffee » September 18th, 2018, 9:21 am

Downing Street admits MPs could undo Theresa May's Chequers deal after Brexit: Brexit News for Tuesday 18th September


https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... september/

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#1010 Postby Alan H » September 18th, 2018, 10:30 am

coffee wrote:Downing Street admits MPs could undo Theresa May's Chequers deal after Brexit: Brexit News for Tuesday 18th September


https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... september/
It's an almighty mess, isn't it, coffee?
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1011 Postby Alan H » September 18th, 2018, 10:31 am

People's Vote:
More than anything else, the EU referendum was fought on the issue of migration. It’s astonishing then that, six months before we’re due to Brexit, the UK public and businesses still have little idea what our migration policy will look like if we leave.

Today was meant to shed some light on the matter, with a report from the Migration Advisory Committee (MAC) laying out the role of EU migration in the UK. Promised and delayed for months now, this document was expected to inform any future government policy.

It seems, however, like some ministers have made up their minds already. Home secretary Sajid Javid wants a “global” migration system where the same criteria are applied to EU citizens as are currently used for non-EU migration, according to reports in The Times. Theresa May hinted that she supports something along similar lines in an interview with the BBC, saying 2016 showed UK voters didn’t want to “see people coming from the EU having those automatic rights in terms of coming here to the UK, and a set of rules for people outside the European Union.”

https://www.peoples-vote.uk/marchforthemany?e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=18_sep_2018&n=7

It’s not clear whether Javid will get his way. But the MAC report is likely to highlight the downside of clamping down on EU migration. The work of EU citizens makes our economy hum: providing a reliable workforce for several industries; creating businesses and new jobs; and paying much more in taxes than they take out in welfare. Workers from further afield, with more immigration hoops to jump through, wouldn’t be able to fulfil the same role.

If Javid gets his way, we could also expect tit-for-tat retaliation from EU countries. That’s bad news for Brits who want to work abroad. Far from making Britain more “global”, a lot of people - especially young people - could see their horizons narrowed.

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Apprentices back People’s Vote

Such a narrowing of horizons is one reason young people support a People’s Vote in huge numbers. The National Society of Apprentices (NSOA) - representing 300,000 apprentices across all sectors and every part of the UK - has today joined forces with For our Future’s Sake (FFS) to campaign for a public vote on Brexit.

Young people who couldn’t vote in 2016 are overwhelmingly against Brexit and now much more engaged and likely to vote, according to new YouGov research. Polling also shows that - even if nobody changed their minds on Brexit - the demographic shift as young people reach voting age and older people pass away will make the UK an anti-Brexit country by January 2019, two months before we are due to leave.

This is the 100TH EDITION of the People's Vote Morning Briefing! A big thanks to all our readers for backing the campaign for a People's Vote. If you know someone who might also like to get the latest Brexit news in their inbox every morning, get them to sign up here.
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WATCH: OFOC co-founder Femi Oluwole explains why young people don’t want Brexit.

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Putting May in a bind

Our negotiating partners across Europe are becoming suspicious of the UK’s long-term commitment to any deal that is struck in the next few months, reports The Times. Michel Barnier, the EU’s chief negotiator, is preparing to insist on “credible” assurances that any political declaration agreed with Theresa May also binds her successor, according to reports of a senior EU meeting last week.

The French president also wants to nail down the key terms of the future Brexit deal now, rather than allow any ambiguous drift on the major issues after 29 March 2019, according to the Guardian. EU diplomats apparently expect the UK government to experience its “darkest hour” and stare into the abyss of a no-deal Brexit before it agrees to what the EU wants.

Comments by Michael Gove over the weekend that a new prime minister could “always choose to alter the relationship between Britain and the European Union” will have done nothing to reassure our EU partners that we can be trusted. They also mean the British people cannot trust what the government is up to. As Nick Kent wrote for InFacts yesterday, they could make Parliament’s promised “meaningful” vote at the end of the Brexit talks meaningless, reinforcing the case for a People’s Vote.
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“For the ‘true believers’ - the fundamentalists - the costs of Brexit have always been irrelevant. Years of economic pain justified by the erotic spasm of leaving the European Union. Economic pain felt - of course - not by them by those least able to afford it."

Vince Cable, speaking at the Liberal Democrat annual conference

Jaguar Land Rover cuts back production

Jaguar Land Rover has moved staff at its Solihull plant to a three-day week, after a cut in production due to “headwinds impacting the car industry”, reports Sky. Brexit is the dominant factor here, alongside a fall in sales of diesel cars.

Local MP Jack Dromey blames the decision on “Brexit chaos”, saying “Brexit now threatens the jewel in the crown on British manufacturing excellence”. The more than 3,000 workers at the Castle Bromwich plant will retain pay and benefit levels during the scheduled cut, which begins in October. But big question marks remain over the UK’s car industry after Brexit.
Tweet of the day


NUS Wales throws its support behind a vote on Theresa May's Brexit.

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More Brexit news…


Only a quarter of Mail readers think UK will get good Brexit deal (Guardian)

Hammond support for IMF’s Brexit warning risks No 10 rift (FT £)

Tory Eurosceptics divided after report warns of no‑deal Brexit chaos (Times £)

Concern over EU 'talent loss' in Scotland post-Brexit, BBC research finds (BBC)

Defra’s future of farming after Brexit looks a lot like Slovenia(Times £)
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Ellie Keiller: Let’s turn the tide on Labour’s Brexit strategy(Times £)

Chuka Umunna: I've spent the last week speaking to 10 EU diplomats about Brexit. As a patriotic Brit, I found their words painful to hear (Independent)

Rachel Sylvester: Politicians are conditioned to lie about Brexit (Times £)
Looking forward...


Today, Tuesday 18th September
- Parliament in recess for conference season
- Liberal Democrat autumn conference
10:00 Migration Advisory Committee report on EU migration post-Brexit Published

Tomorrow, Wednesday 18th September
- Parliament in recess for conference season
- Theresa May goes to Salzburg to convince EU27 leaders of her Brexit Strategy
09:30 ONS: Consumer price inflation
09:30 ONS: House prices
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1012 Postby animist » September 18th, 2018, 12:17 pm

re racism and Brexit, the weird thing is that "real" racists, ie those who dislike dark-skinned people, presumably voted Leave, yet the result of Brexit is likely to be some degree of white non-Brits being replaced by non-whites in such as the NHS

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#1013 Postby Alan H » September 18th, 2018, 12:45 pm

animist wrote:re racism and Brexit, the weird thing is that "real" racists, ie those who dislike dark-skinned people, presumably voted Leave, yet the result of Brexit is likely to be some degree of white non-Brits being replaced by non-whites in such as the NHS
I don't think they've realised that yet...
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1014 Postby coffee » September 18th, 2018, 5:52 pm

Here is your brexit news for today.

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#1015 Postby Alan H » September 18th, 2018, 6:18 pm

Please coffee. a long list of links to Tweets is not at all helpful. I'll leave them this time, but please do not do that again.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1016 Postby Alan H » September 18th, 2018, 6:42 pm

You'll be willing to compensate us for the loss, won't you, coffee? EU migrant workers contribute £2,300 more per year to UK than average British citizen, study reveals
Taxes will have to rise if Brexit brings strict curbs on EU workers because they pay far more to the public purse than British-born residents, a study warns today.

Migrants from the EU contribute £2,300 more to the exchequer each year in net terms than the average adult, the analysis for the government has found.

And, over their lifetimes, they pay in £78,000 more than they take out in public services and benefits - while the average UK citizen’s net lifetime contribution is zero.

Oxford Economics, which carried out the assessment, said this meant the value of EU citizens to the economy was the equivalent of slapping 5p on income tax rates.

“When it comes to the public finances, European migrants contribute substantially more than they cost, easing the tax burden on other taxpayers,” said Ian Mulheirn, the lead researcher.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1017 Postby coffee » September 19th, 2018, 10:41 am

Alan H wrote:Please coffee. a long list of links to Tweets is not at all helpful. I'll leave them this time, but please do not do that again.


I will post a shorter list in the future.

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#1018 Postby coffee » September 19th, 2018, 10:43 am

There’s now a US-UK trade deal ready to be signed

https://brexitcentral.com/theres-now-us ... dy-signed/

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#1019 Postby Alan H » September 19th, 2018, 11:22 am

coffee wrote:
Alan H wrote:Please coffee. a long list of links to Tweets is not at all helpful. I'll leave them this time, but please do not do that again.


I will post a shorter list in the future.
A shorter list does not resolve the problem.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1020 Postby Alan H » September 19th, 2018, 11:24 am

coffee wrote:There’s now a US-UK trade deal ready to be signed

https://brexitcentral.com/theres-now-us ... dy-signed/

:pointlaugh: :hilarity: :laughter:

But anyway, assuming it was, what would be its impact on UK citizens?
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1021 Postby coffee » September 19th, 2018, 5:28 pm

Westmonster

@WestmonsterUK

BOOM: Major US firm backs Brexit Britain.

'We believe the UK is a great place to do business. Brexit creates some short term uncertainty, so what?'

https://twitter.com/WestmonsterUK/statu ... 6001408001

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Westmonster

@WestmonsterUK

EL COM: UKIP cleared of any offences after investigation into European groups.

“The Commission has not found offences on the evidence available.”

https://twitter.com/WestmonsterUK/statu ... 7707677696

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Michael Heaver

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Michael Heaver Retweeted The Independent

Day has been full of lefties at Indy and elsewhere backing big business desire for endless supplies of cheap migrant labour against the interests of British workers, particularly the low paid.

Speaks volumes.

https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/stat ... 8996286465

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