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Hard conversation about population

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Hard conversation about population

#1 Post by coffee » June 27th, 2020, 7:41 pm

Hard conversation about population

https://www.aspendailynews.com/opinion/ ... d08e6.html

Editor:

A world population council is long overdue. How long can the planet, and indeed the human species, bear the burden of unsustainable population growth? Our planet is drowning in human-created garbage, pollution and wars. And yet, world religions continue to place child-bearing on such a high pedestal that to broach the subject of population containment is deemed irreligious or anti-humanist. However, on closer observation, it becomes clear that huge and growing populations in fact do not serve or support humanist values. The worst human rights abuses occur in countries with vast/dense populations as the value of the individual declines in direct proportion to their number and increasing competition for scarcer and scarcer resources.

Prima facie the two humanistic goals of feeding the entire world, and equality for all humans seem worthy of pursuit. But these goals become toxic when applied to burgeoning populations, ­resulting in depleted and poisoned natural resources, dwindling biodiversity, survival failure of other species, wars, both accidental and engineered famines, unprecedented refugee crises, imperialism, modern-day slavery and atrocious human rights abuses. Even as we purport to support human dignity, human life becomes more commodified each day. There are so many of us that we have become numbers, bar charts, pie diagrams and concepts. Is it not time to initiate the discussion on population containment as a core value within the framework of humanism?

Dipika Rai

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Re: Hard conversation about population

#2 Post by Compassionist » June 28th, 2020, 7:18 am

Humans are not overpopulated on Earth. We are misdistributed on Earth. We need to be evenly distributed in the habitable areas. That's all. Please see https://overpopulationisamyth.com Thank you.

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Re: Hard conversation about population

#3 Post by coffee » June 28th, 2020, 12:18 pm


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Re: Hard conversation about population

#4 Post by Compassionist » June 28th, 2020, 9:40 pm

coffee wrote:
June 28th, 2020, 12:18 pm
https://populationmatters.org/
Thank you for the link. The website is wrong. As I said before, "Humans are not overpopulated on Earth. We are misdistributed on Earth. We need to be evenly distributed in the habitable areas."

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Re: Hard conversation about population

#5 Post by coffee » June 29th, 2020, 3:56 pm

This website is correct, and is supported by a well known David Attenborough
https://populationmatters.org/

If you don't know him, please take a look at this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Attenborough
And this
https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... tenborough

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Re: Hard conversation about population

#6 Post by Compassionist » June 30th, 2020, 10:32 pm

Thank you for your reply Coffee. I have watched all of David's nature documentaries and am a fan. The website is failing to mention the most important thing which is that it is not the number of people that's the problem, it's the huge misdistribution and the huge ecological footprints of the rich. Please see https://worldmapper.org/maps/grid-ecolo ... rint-2019/ If we redistributed the people of the Earth evenly across the habitable areas, everyone would have lots of living space instead of being overcrowded in cities. The rich need to reduce their ecological footprints drastically.

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Re: Hard conversation about population

#7 Post by coffee » July 9th, 2020, 6:15 pm

Below is a Population Matters twitter account, please go there for more information on a sustainable world population

Population Matters

@PopnMatters

UK-based international charity campaigning for a sustainable future. We promote women's empowerment, #SRHR, education, #smallfamilies and global justice.

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Re: Hard conversation about population

#8 Post by coffee » July 10th, 2020, 6:39 am

Population Matters
@PopnMatters

Join our exciting live Q&A for #WorldPopulationDay on our Facebook page next Saturday, 5pm BST! We'll be joined by experts from around the world to discuss the link between population and the #SustainableDevelopmentGoals. RSVP here: https://facebook.com/events/2708159

https://twitter.com/PopnMatters/status/ ... 10594?s=20

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Re: Hard conversation about population

#9 Post by Compassionist » August 6th, 2020, 5:39 pm

coffee wrote:
July 10th, 2020, 6:39 am
Population Matters
@PopnMatters

Join our exciting live Q&A for #WorldPopulationDay on our Facebook page next Saturday, 5pm BST! We'll be joined by experts from around the world to discuss the link between population and the #SustainableDevelopmentGoals. RSVP here: https://facebook.com/events/2708159

https://twitter.com/PopnMatters/status/ ... 10594?s=20
Thanks for the links coffee. Sadly, I did not see them in time to take part in the Q&A.

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