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#1061 Post by coffee » October 3rd, 2018, 5:24 pm

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There will always be a housing crisis when net migration is running at 250,000+ each year.

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#1062 Post by Alan H » October 3rd, 2018, 5:57 pm

coffee wrote:There will always be a housing crisis when net migration is running at 250,000+ each year.
This is hilarious, coffee!

Maybe you think BluKIP should stop ALL immigration, coffee - both EU and non-EU? But even if they were to stop ALL EU immigration, they'd still fail to meet their target - and that's with them being able to completely control non-EU immigration. And then there's the knock-on effects on employment and the economy... but I don't suppose you care about that. Just getting forners out of the country?

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But you haven't shown that this is the cause of the housing crisis, have you?
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1063 Post by coffee » October 4th, 2018, 9:07 am

Theresa May fails to namecheck “Chequers” in her conference speech: Brexit News for Thursday 4th October


TODAY'S HEADLINES

Theresa May warns that pursuing a ‘perfect Brexit’ risks no Brexit, but fails to namecheck Chequers in conference speech

PM now begins a frantic ten-day push to lock down a divorce deal ahead of October's European Council

DUP leader Arlene Foster insists her red line is ‘blood red' as new plans are drawn up to avoid a hard Irish border

May's Brexit plan would mean lesser Australian trade deal, says ex-High Commissioner Alexander Downer


https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... h-october/

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#1064 Post by Alan H » October 4th, 2018, 11:21 am

Theresa May and her Tory and DUP cronies have got themselves - and us - into a right pickle, haven't they, coffee? Whatever happened to all this 'it's going to be easy, the easiest deal in all history, etc, etc, etc"?
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1065 Post by coffee » October 5th, 2018, 5:25 pm

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DISTURBING: Violent Islamic State group operating in Greek refugee camp.

“The camp is full of ISIS members”

“I left Syria because of ISIS. But when I arrived here, I realised the same ISIS rules apply here too.”

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Five Star’s Di Maio has 54% approval rating in Italy.

Salvini is up to 52%

And Lega now polling huge 41% In north of the country.

Big change sweeping Europe right now.

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Remember the Remoaners making a big fuss about Unilever moving their HQ out of London? Turns out it's not happening... The all-important shareholders back Brexit Britain, and rebuffed the Remoaner CEO!

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#1066 Post by coffee » October 5th, 2018, 5:52 pm

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How enriching! 25,000 acres of UK Greenbelt are to be concreted over to accommodate the uninvited surge of migrants

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#1067 Post by Alan H » October 5th, 2018, 6:36 pm

People's Vote briefing for today:
The Brextremists are getting over-excited about the EU calling for a Canada +++ deal. They haven’t got what they want - unless, that is, they are preparing to sell Northern Ireland down the river.

Donald Tusk said yesterday: “From the very beginning, the EU offer has been a Canada+++ deal - much further-reaching on trade, internal security and foreign policy cooperation.” But, in the same breath, the European Council president demanded that Theresa May "get down to business” and solve the Irish border issue.

When the EU talks about Canada+++, one of the pluses is that there has to be a legally-watertight deal to keep the Irish border open in all circumstances - the so-called backstop.

Nigel Farage urged May to “bite his hand off”. Boris Johnson crowed that Tusk’s comments marked a “superb way forward”. However, the former foreign secretary did at least add: “The first step to achieving a mutually beneficial SuperCanada deal is the removal of the Irish backstop so there is no threat to the Union whatsoever."

https://www.peoples-vote.uk/march?e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=05_oct_2018&n=6

And that’s what’s so hopeless about the Brextremists’ proposal. It’s not just that a Canada-style deal would damage our manufacturers’ supply lines and do little to help our services industries. There will be no Canada+++ deal without an Irish backstop - something Johnson once described as a “suicide vest”.

Unless he has changed his mind and is prepared to agree border checks in the Irish Sea - something that would cross the “blood red” line of his new best friend Arlene Foster, the DUP’s leader - a Johnsonian negotiation would rapidly lead to no deal at all.

But the prime minister’s own emerging “Chequers 2.0” scheme is equally hapless. It involves even more rule-taking than her dead Chequers 1.0 proposal, including on trade with the rest of the world, as well as regulatory checks in the Irish Sea - and it’s not even clear the EU will accept it.

With factions of the Conservative Party still squabbling over miserable proposals that aren’t even viable, there’s only one reasonable solution: ask the people what they want.

HAVE YOU SIGNED THE PETITION FOR A PEOPLE'S VOTE?

SNP moves towards supporting People's Vote

Nicola Sturgeon has taken another step towards supporting a People’s Vote. In response to a question yesterday from the Lib Dem leader in the Scottish Parliament about whether she would back such a vote, Scotland’s first minister said: “On the issue of the People’s Vote, I have made it clear to the chamber and to others that the Scottish National Party is not going to stand in the way of that, so perhaps Willie Rennie should learn to start taking ‘yes’ for an answer.”

Previously, Sturgeon had said her Scottish National Party, which has 35 MPs in Westminster, would “not block” a People’s Vote, leaving open the possibility that the party might abstain when the crunch vote happens. The new formulation suggests it will vote in favour. But it would still be great if she was crystal clear about that.
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Labour MP Phil Wilson is understandably concerned about how Nissan's reaction to Brexit will affect his constituents.

https://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=YqgukYA3Mrlri-dqG7I8Tl60rqYNzGDOTM0HJ6Wmh0hLazxK8QrxYBZM_hj0bSgNiEjiqAjh-ANKqBTwBi0I0Q&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=05_oct_2018&n=13

Thank Brexit for austerity

Theresa May’s promise to end austerity will cost “at the very minimum” an an extra £20bn a year by 2022, according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies. The FT’s best guess is the cost would be £35bn. Without Brexit, there would be no need for austerity at all. There would have been more investment and the economy would have been 2.5% bigger, so our deficit would now have been virtually wiped out. And no need to magic up money to fill a hole in the public finances. As it is, we already have £26bn less a year in the public kitty as a result of Brexit, according to the Centre for European Reform, and that’s before Brexit has even happened.
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WATCH: Femi explains why Brexit is putting 7,000 jobs at risk in Sunderland because Toyota wants to keep all of its factories in the EU. Nobody in Sunderland voted to lose their job.

https://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=YqgukYA3Mrlri-dqG7I8TuwYl1S0LNjUzOhO0xN7O5_EOorxls_TtsJPkNpo-qJrZjWCP3fNkYuJ5Zk62_0trA&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=05_oct_2018&n=18

No deal recession

RBS is warning that a bad Brexit could cause growth to splutter to a halt, or even turn negative. With just six months to go until our nominal date of departure and very little clarification on what that will look like, businesses are increasingly anxious. A no deal Brexit could see investment in Britain slashed, bringing the economy to a standstill.
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“Big businesses are pausing, they are saying that in six months time I’ll have another look at the UK and I might come back, but if it’s really bad I’ll invest elsewhere - that’s the reality of where we are today.”

Royal Bank of Scotland CEO Ross McEwan says businesses are increasingly worried about a no deal Brexit

When is a deal not a deal?

Liam Fox thinks we should go with any deal that seems practical now so we can get Brexit through Parliament, following the line taken by Michael Gove. He thinks we can always chuck it once we’ve left. Fox believes that “it’s self-evident that if it’s a bilateral treaty, it can be revised later on”. This is not a great look for the trade secretary, who is supposed to make reliable commitments to bilateral treaties. It also means the public could be conned by a “blindfold” Brexit - and the hardliners push through an even more damaging form of Brexit if we quit.
Who's Marching?


WATCH:Emma is marching because she believes in free trade and a collective European Identity. Sign up to join her on October 20th HERE.

https://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=YqgukYA3Mrlri-dqG7I8Tl9nYkAywFsncf5Ppo34xRCDNUSCd97HSjj80ZGY9Sdt1rzzgzUbc7VDaT81YwqAsg&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=05_oct_2018&n=24

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More Brexit news…


UK’s biggest gay clubs coming together to throw a Brexit People’s Vote Party - Gay Star News

Drugs regulator warns on no-deal Brexit access to new medicines (FT)

Low-skilled men 'most at risk' from Brexit (Times)

Fears Britain's bill for divorcing the EU is growing as country is tied to covering bloc's soaring spending promises (Mail)
Top Brexit commenthttps://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=JVrTuh89eqOCis53dYaEcM1DMZA7h9i4MMbCM8IqjoYVaso6UlhHBpi1R_RhEcYH9YV2Thp7p5mQuAKno4au9gUl02Zbm5zdoZ2Wciw1wPBos4n_iqThK9W-ZlxMAsVA2bxJeVtCfCcZOeAVhmydp1sBGvg8CZ5sOcp5kJL4e30&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=05_oct_2018&n=31


Iain Martin: Brexiteers, brace yourself for a customs con(Times)

Chris Giles: May's 'end austerity' pledge creates £35bn annual Budget hole (FT)

Martin Wolf: Brexiters misunderstand the European project(FT)
Looking forward...


Today, Friday 5th October
- Parliament in recess for conference season
- Michel Barnier meets Northern Ireland politicians, including Sinn Fein's Michelle O'Neill
09.30 ONS: Productivity stats published
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1068 Post by coffee » October 8th, 2018, 9:28 am

Theresa May braced for another week of battles with Brussels and her own backbenchers: Brexit News for Monday 8 October

TODAY'S HEADLINES

Theresa May braced for another week of battles with Brussels and her own backbenchers

Government reportedly in talks with 25 Labour MPs to push a Chequers-based deal through Parliament

Ireland’s Deputy PM Simon Coveney says a Brexit deal is '90% agreed'

UK would be welcomed to TPP ‘with open arms’, says Japanese PM Abe


https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... 8-october/

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#1069 Post by Alan H » October 8th, 2018, 11:38 am

coffee wrote:Theresa May braced for another week of battles with Brussels and her own backbenchers: Brexit News for Monday 8 October
ROFL! May can even win arguments with her own party, never mind in the real world of the EU!

What was it she said about being strong and stable and providing certainty?
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1070 Post by Alan H » October 8th, 2018, 11:39 am

People's Vote briefing for today:
HAVE YOU SIGNED UP TO JOIN THE PEOPLE'S VOTE MARCH FOR THE FUTURE ON OCTOBER 20 YET? IF NOT, DO SO RIGHT HERE!

As Theresa May bends over backwards to get a Brexit deal (see below), two further political parties have come out in favour of a People’s Vote: the SNP and Plaid Cymru. They join the Liberal Democrats, Greens and Women’s Equality Party - as well as Labour, which has given the idea qualified endorsement, and an increasing number of Tory MPs too.

With the opposition massing against the prime minister’s plans - and problems from Brextremist and pro-European Conservatives, and the alliance with the DUP - she will struggle to get any deal through Parliament. No wonder the Tory whips are trying to woo Labour MPs to their cause to make up the numbers. But that, too, seems doomed - because there aren’t just two choices - a miserable deal and no deal. There’s a third: a People’s Vote. (see below).

https://www.peoples-vote.uk/march?e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=08_oct_2018&n=8

Nicola Sturgeon came out in favour of a new public vote on the BBC’s Andrew Marr Show yesterday, saying: “SNP MPs would undoubtedly vote for that proposition.” The SNP has 35 MPs in Westminster, the third-largest bloc. Scotland’s first minister is in tune with her members, 89% of whom want a People’s Vote and 93% of whom would like to stay in the EU, according to a YouGov poll.

Meanwhile, the new Plaid Cymru leader Adam Price has supported a People’s Vote with all guns blazing.
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WATCH: Nicola Sturgeon says the SNP would back a People's Vote in Parliament.

https://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=YqgukYA3Mrlri-dqG7I8Tl9nYkAywFsncf5Ppo34xRDkmlxUeZrsA20UjG5sWd0I9stQJCW8VizWXKdW9VdQww&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=08_oct_2018&n=12

Bending over backwards to get a deal

Theresa May might now get a deal, but only because she is making a series of quick-fired concessions. In addition to being prepared to keep the UK in the EU’s customs union for as far as the eye can see and to have regulatory checks in the Irish Sea, she may now accept that the European Court of Justice effectively has the final say if there are any disputes, according to Politico.

There’s nothing wrong with the ECJ. UK judges have played a big role in developing its jurisprudence. The problem is that, after Brexit, we won’t have a judge on the court. What happened to taking back control of our laws?

The emerging deal, which negotiators are hoping to nail down before next week’s summit, will also be vague in the extreme - 10 to 20 pages of annotated headlines, Politico reports. The wording of this blindfold Brexit will be such that the prime minister will be able to point to elements that look like her dead Chequers proposal while Brextremists will see things that look a bit like their Canada model.

This is a blindfold Brexit that attempts to pull the wool over voters’ eyes. It’s the worst of both worlds, as I've written for InFacts here.
  • It would damage our power because we would end up following lots of EU rules, including on trade with the rest of the world, without a vote on them.
  • It would damage our prosperity as i would do little to protect our services industries, 80% of the economy, and would harm our manufacturers too.
  • It could damage peace in Northern Ireland by simply deferring the key decisions about how to maintain a soft border in Ireland in the long term until after we have left the EU.
  • Political infighting over whether the ultimate deal was closer to Chequers or Canada would drag on and on, crippling the economy with uncertainty.
  • The public would be kept in the dark about what Brexit means until well after we have left.
Tweet of the day


This wry parody of Banksy's 'Girl With A Balloon' shredding stunt.

https://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=YqgukYA3Mrlri-dqG7I8TuwYl1S0LNjUzOhO0xN7O5_cJX7oluCd2z60MRtx0ek2r3ELXXHV6xstswFpA58-Aw&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=08_oct_2018&n=17

May’s parliamentary maths doesn’t add up

If Theresa May does get such a miserable Chequada deal, she will struggle to get it through Parliament. She must first win over (at least some of) the Brextremists in the ERG. Though this group claims up to 80 Tories in the Commons, the hard core may be as few 20. These are the ones who threatened this weekend to bring down the government if it didn’t retreat on its plan to keep the UK in the customs union indefinitely as part of its solution to the Irish border issue.

Other Brexiters appear more flexible. They say the whole UK can stay in the customs union but only until the next general election in 2022, according to The Times. But this is a false concession because there’s no way the EU will accept a solution that only keeps the Irish border open until 2022.

That’s why May’s whips are trying to put the wind up around 25 Labour MPs, telling them if they don’t vote for May’s deal we’ll get the chaos of crashing out with no deal at all, according to reports in The Guardian and The Telegraph. But the “my deal or no deal” argument is a false dilemma. There’s a third option: a People’s Vote. If there’s deadlock in Parliament, handing the decision back to the public will suddenly look like a very sensible way out.
Tweet of the day 2


Strong support from Sadiq Khan to give the people the final say on Brexit.

https://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=YqgukYA3Mrlri-dqG7I8TrmW57R_l2NmlEJLTXHHIC7eG2XfWrGwv0wysD0BVu-YPMr0AivSGitVNh0oT6BOIg&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=08_oct_2018&n=23

Brexiters’ Japan fantasy

Brexiters are over-excited because Japan’s prime minister has suggested the UK would be welcomed with “open arms” into a trade pact with 11 Pacific countries, in an interview with the FT. But signing up to the deal would require leaving the EU’s customs union - exactly the opposite of what Theresa May is now proposing. If we did go for a hard Brexit outside the customs union, Japanese firms in the UK would probably shift their operations to run more smoothly within the EU. This strategy looks even more daft because we already have a great trade deal with Japan - thanks to our membership of the EU!
Who's Marching?


WATCH: Kira will be marching on Parliament to demand a People's Vote on October 20 because she believes the only way out of this Brexit mess is a People's Vote. Sign up to join her HERE.

https://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=YqgukYA3Mrlri-dqG7I8Tl9nYkAywFsncf5Ppo34xRAZme3ffVKO38DlV1eaOffcKbjVVLFagjtq7bBWD-TKRA&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=08_oct_2018&n=27
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“I am petrified at the way Brexit is going. I’m afraid the political leaders have made a dog’s dinner of it and none of us really trust them any more to take final decision – whatever the result of the negotiations.”

National treasure Delia Smith, one of the many public figures footing the bill for coaches to take people from across the country to the People’s Vote March for the Future in London on October 20. Find out more here
More Brexit news…


People’s Vote march: full list of celebrities funding coaches for people to attend Brexit protest (i)

EU citizens could face repeat of Windrush scandal, say landlords (Guardian)

Brexit anxiety for businesses 'at highest since referendum'(Guardian)

Pension costs could rise after Brexit, insurers warn (Times £)

Brexit not on agenda for Theresa May's next cabinet meeting(Guardian)
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WATCH: The latest instalment of the FFS Awards from For our Future's Sake.

https://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=YqgukYA3Mrlri-dqG7I8Tj1SnwrfGIXbYKKPFxgh1JCF6SKKF8caSvD6HJR1zv59qzS-EeUSlv3tCZKkEdBV-A&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=08_oct_2018&n=37
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Editorial: A no-deal Brexit is against the ‘will of the people’(Independent)

Matthew d’Ancona: Theresa May’s push for the centre ground is doomed. Blame Brexit (Guardian)

Clare Foges: Big lie of the ‘anti‑establishment’ Brexit vote(Times £)
Looking forward...


Today, Monday 8th October
- Parliament in recess for conference season
- SNP Party Conference

Tomorrow, Tuesday 9th October
- Parliament returns
- Michel Barnier meets DUP leader Arlene Foster
14:00 Migration Advisory Committee chair, Alan Manning, in front of home affairs committee
15:15 Nicola Sturgeon addresses SNP party conference
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1071 Post by coffee » October 8th, 2018, 5:44 pm

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More proof that the fake-Conservative government is in no way conservative - they want to concrete over the green belt, to solve an entirely artificial housing crisis caused by their own policy of rapid, mass, uncontrolled, unsustainable immigration.

https://twitter.com/davidkurten/status/ ... 5926090752

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#1072 Post by Alan H » October 8th, 2018, 7:12 pm

coffee wrote:David Kurten

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More proof that the fake-Conservative government is in no way conservative - they want to concrete over the green belt, to solve an entirely artificial housing crisis caused by their own policy of rapid, mass, uncontrolled, unsustainable immigration.

https://twitter.com/davidkurten/status/ ... 5926090752

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Except, immigration is controlled, even though the Tories chose not to us many more controls they had at their disposal, courtesy of those very nice people in the EU.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1073 Post by coffee » October 11th, 2018, 9:29 am

DUP threaten to ‘vote down Budget’ if Brexit deal crosses their red lines: Brexit News for Thursday 11th October

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... h-october/

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#1074 Post by Alan H » October 11th, 2018, 10:03 am

coffee wrote:DUP threaten to ‘vote down Budget’ if Brexit deal crosses their red lines: Brexit News for Thursday 11th October

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... h-october/
It's a right old Tory fuck-up, isn't it, coffee?
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1075 Post by animist » October 11th, 2018, 10:29 am

Alan H wrote:
coffee wrote:DUP threaten to ‘vote down Budget’ if Brexit deal crosses their red lines: Brexit News for Thursday 11th October

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... h-october/
It's a right old Tory fuck-up, isn't it, coffee?
interesting how Brexit Central now seems to tacitly accept the weakening of Brexit

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#1076 Post by coffee » October 14th, 2018, 1:32 pm

Dozens of Tory Eurosceptics join economists in lambasting the Chancellor over his Brexit forecasts: Brexit News for Sunday 14 October

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... 4-october/

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#1077 Post by Alan H » October 14th, 2018, 1:33 pm

coffee wrote:Dozens of Tory Eurosceptics join economists in lambasting the Chancellor over his Brexit forecasts: Brexit News for Sunday 14 October

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... 4-october/
And the Tory war with itself continues unabated...
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1078 Post by coffee » October 14th, 2018, 7:22 pm

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Brexit panic has started on the Continent. Now we must drive a hard bargain, writes @DavidDavisMP

https://twitter.com/BrexitCentral/statu ... 8573682688

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#1079 Post by Alan H » October 14th, 2018, 7:40 pm

coffee wrote:BrexitCentral

@BrexitCentral

Brexit panic has started on the Continent. Now we must drive a hard bargain, writes @DavidDavisMP

https://twitter.com/BrexitCentral/statu ... 8573682688
ROFL! He failed to do so when he was in charge of Brexit so why should not continue to fail now? He's a incompetent, lazy idiot.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1080 Post by coffee » October 15th, 2018, 9:35 am

Tentative Brexit divorce deal collapses after Raab and Barnier meeting: Brexit News for Monday 15 October

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... 5-october/

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#1081 Post by Alan H » October 15th, 2018, 10:41 am

:laughter: :pointlaugh: :hilarity: :laughter: :hilarity: :pointlaugh:
coffee wrote:Tentative Brexit divorce deal collapses after Raab and Barnier meeting: Brexit News for Monday 15 October

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... 5-october/
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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