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The future of the Labour Party (if any)

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Nick
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The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#1 Post by Nick » July 6th, 2016, 9:29 pm

There isn't one.

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Re: The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#2 Post by jaywhat » July 6th, 2016, 9:43 pm

Rubbish ! I have just joined so how can it fail.
Also joined 'MOMENTUM' to support Jeremy Corbyn.

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Re: The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#3 Post by Alan H » July 6th, 2016, 10:06 pm

Nick wrote:There isn't one.
God help us if there isn't - or at least if there isn't some kind of coalition that can defeat the Tories that got us into this mess.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#4 Post by Nick » July 6th, 2016, 10:17 pm

So far, they can't even form a coalition of Labour MP's.

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Re: The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#5 Post by Alan H » July 6th, 2016, 11:02 pm

Nick wrote:So far, they can't even form a coalition of Labour MP's.
Indeed.
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Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#6 Post by Nick » July 11th, 2016, 4:28 pm

So lets see where we have got to now. Corbyn can't raise a Shadow Cabinet. But refuses to resign. And would fail a vote of "No Confidence" in the Commons.

So Ms Eagle challenges. Either Corbyn stands, in which case he wins and half the PLP resign the whip, or he's barred from standing by not getting enough nominations, and goes to law. If he wins, the PLP is finished. If he loses, Ms Eagle and many others are deselected by the constituencies, and Labour is crushed at the next election.

Have I missed anything....? Do we need the opinion of 1000 barristers....?

As I was saying, what future?

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#7 Post by stevenw888 » July 14th, 2016, 5:03 pm

I have sent a text to David Milliband over in the States. All will be sorted when he gets back to these shores.
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Re: The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#8 Post by Nick » July 20th, 2016, 12:44 pm

The Eagle has (Crash-) Landed.

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#9 Post by Alan H » July 20th, 2016, 2:04 pm

Nick wrote:The Eagle has (Crash-) Landed.
They're dropping nearly as fast as Tory Party leader candidates...
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#10 Post by Nick » October 1st, 2016, 9:42 pm

Any sign of a Labour future yet....?

Nope.

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Re: The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#11 Post by animist » October 2nd, 2016, 9:50 am

Nick wrote:Any sign of a Labour future yet....?

Nope.
agreed, but Corbyn just might become PM in this Parliament if the Tories split over Brexit and Terri May loses her touch. After that, well...

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Re: The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#12 Post by Nick » December 8th, 2016, 8:17 pm

And now, it appears, Momentum is splitting in two......

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#13 Post by jaywhat » December 9th, 2016, 7:13 am

[quote="Nick"]So lets see where we have got to now. Corbyn can't raise a Shadow Cabinet. But refuses to resign. And would fail a vote of "No Confidence" in the Commons.

Failing a vote of 'No Confidence' would surely be better that passing one ! :smile:

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#14 Post by Nick » December 9th, 2016, 10:56 am

Labour's share of the vote in Sleaford drops around 40%, beaten by both UKIP and the Lib Dems.

However, the news of this is event in the Graun is listed at number 1 in the "most popular" sidebar :D

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Re: The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#15 Post by Nick » January 10th, 2017, 2:27 pm

Apparently, in Sleaford, their votes were less than registered Labour party members!

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#16 Post by Nick » January 10th, 2017, 2:30 pm

And in other news, Comrade Corbyn is advocating introducing maximum wages! :supershock:

Even Richard Murphy thinks that's crackers!

The Labour Party is in deep do-do.

:popcorn:

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Re: The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#17 Post by Nick » January 13th, 2017, 1:34 pm

And now Tristram Hunt jumps ship....

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Re: The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#18 Post by Nick » March 21st, 2017, 3:22 pm

Now 19% behind. If an election were held today, that would be an overall Tory majority of what.... about 120?



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Re: The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#19 Post by Alan H » March 21st, 2017, 3:29 pm

Nick wrote:Now 19% behind. If an election were held today, that would be an overall Tory majority of what.... about 120?



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Sad, isn't it?
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: The future of the Labour Party (if any)

#20 Post by Nick » April 18th, 2017, 8:06 pm

animist wrote:
Nick wrote:Any sign of a Labour future yet....?

Nope.
agreed, but Corbyn just might become PM in this Parliament if the Tories split over Brexit and Terri May loses her touch. After that, well...
You still think so....?

Today's ICM poll: Labour on 25%, Tories on 46%

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