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We don't so long as we can keep the money grabbers out!Altfish wrote:Why do we have to have shareholders gaining in a caring industry?
We used to clean and disinfect the theaters twice a day whether they had been used or not, when the privateers took over, this was reduced to once a month regardless of usage.Dave B
Just how do the privateers reduce the overall cost to the tx-purse then, Nick. How do the reduce that shed-load to a mere barrow-load then?
Be afraid. Be very afraid.Mr Cameron will say the new powers will make it harder for people to promote extremist views.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone,'" he will say.
Mr Cameron's is one of the extremist parties. The Tories have always frightened me.Alan H wrote:David Cameron to set out new anti-extremism lawBe afraid. Be very afraid.Mr Cameron will say the new powers will make it harder for people to promote extremist views.
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone,'" he will say.
when was the last time that a militant atheist threatened human life? But yes, the trap is to drive these guys further underground; proscribing organisations tends to fail, as it did with the IRA, because they are easily reformed. It is better police work that's needed, specially to deal with the technological nous of terrorists and other criminalsAltfish wrote:It is a worrying law the way they are talking.
Would it include 'militant atheists'?
All it will do is send the really bad guys further underground and make the 'young impressionable recruits' even more curious and more likely to sign up.
Conservative officials threatened the BBC with far-reaching reforms, such as changes to the licence fee funding system, if it did not alter the political balance of its coverage of the general election campaign, Tom Baldwin, one of Ed Miliband’s senior advisers, has claimed.
Baldwin reveals one reason he feels confident that the BBC does not contain a leftwing bias is that he fought and lost a daily battle with the BBC about its coverage of the campaign.
He writes: “Far from being in the pocket of Labour, the BBC was too easily swayed by newspapers that support the Tories and are heavily invested in Labour’s defeat.”
He discloses the party’s biggest dispute with the BBC during the campaign was over “the prominence it gave to the idea of a deal between Labour and the SNP that was never on the cards”.
He writes: “After the first 237 incarnations on news bulletins, I struggled to see how this theme could be developed further, yet the BBC continued to lead with speculation about bizarre consequences of a Labour-SNP government for the economy, tax, and even road schemes.
appalling if true - were any records kept of these threats?Alan H wrote:Tory officials threatened BBC during election, says Miliband's strategistConservative officials threatened the BBC with far-reaching reforms, such as changes to the licence fee funding system, if it did not alter the political balance of its coverage of the general election campaign, Tom Baldwin, one of Ed Miliband’s senior advisers, has claimed.
This is how David Cameron will address the National Security Council today:
"For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens: as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone."
This, incredibly enough, is how the prime minister is opening his argument for protecting British values. In fact, these words were released in advance to the media, suggesting he does not see the irony. What he has described above is as effective a definition of British values as exists. It is a free society: follow the law and the state will leave you alone. It is remarkable that a supposedly Conservative politician would not recognise that.
He now he plans to dismantle this notion in the name of British values. The government plans to interfere with legal behaviour.
stevenw888 wrote:Oh dear. You guys do seem to be particularly upset that a democratically elected goverment is now rolling out its plans to govern. Perhaps we should all call for another election so that this time you get the result that you want.
I wonder if those who voted blue are all happy, or was it a case that, more so than usual, there was no other real choice?Alan H wrote:stevenw888 wrote:Oh dear. You guys do seem to be particularly upset that a democratically elected goverment is now rolling out its plans to govern. Perhaps we should all call for another election so that this time you get the result that you want.
Yes, they are in power. That doesn't mean we should obediently and meekly accept what they throw at us, doffing our caps, never criticising it.
I agree wholeheartedly Dave. Twas a poor choice indeed that we were offered in the last election. Perhaps Russell Brand will come good in time for the next one and form his own political party. Maybe then, we'll have better choices. However I remember saying this in 1979 - and all I got was the SDP!We have the creme of the crap in charge. Hobson's choice.
The incoming Conservative Government is to be immediately disbanded after it was discovered they’re illegal under new laws forbidding ‘extremist groups’.
“Frankly, it’s all a bit embarrassing,” Prime Minister David Cameron told the Today programme.
“We rushed in new powers to ban any groups with extreme views that threaten the fabric of society.”
“It was meant to sort out all these dodgy Muslim johnnies that the last Labour Government flooded the country with, but then it leaked that Gove wants to bring back hanging.”
“We never dreamed we’d be affected, firstly because we’re 99% white and not very beardy, and secondly, because multi-millionaires are above the law anyway.”
Extremism banned
The unfortunate news reached Number 10 after several leading lawyers examined the draft Bill in detail and concluded that summary executions, instituting forced labour for sick and disabled people and abolishing all human rights was “a bit Hitler-y”.
All the lawyers involved were subsequently also banned by Downing Street as ‘enemies of the state’.
Fresh elections are expected to be held within 6 weeks, with pundits predicting a landslide victory for more moderate parties, like UKIP and the EDL.
If 'British values' mean anything, they must prevent us from legislating against non-violent views that we find abhorrent
In essence, these measures target those who operate in what the police have called the “pre-criminal space” and therefore expand the definition of people who could be incarcerated from those who do bad things to those who think bad things. This is problematic for a number of reasons.
Since it's integral to the Scotland Act, the Tories would need to get that changed as well. I assume thy will just try the bulldozer technique.animist wrote:http://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/may ... servatives
"Scottish government source warns there could be a complete standoff as Holyrood says it will withhold legislative consent" to the scrapping of the Human Right Act
