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Humanism and Superstition

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John Jones
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Humanism and Superstition

#1 Postby John Jones » October 23rd, 2010, 7:33 pm

Only the scientist believes in superstition. No-one else gives the idea any credence.

Superstition is an odd term. It makes fun of the person who uses it against others.

For example, to say that "religion is superstitious" mocks the person who says it. Why is this? Superstition is the odd, compulsive attribition of physical causes to something that is not physical. Only obsessive, rather stupid, scientists make such attributions.

This is why it is important that humanists and atheists do not believe in the scientist's idea of superstition.

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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#2 Postby Alan H » October 23rd, 2010, 7:38 pm

Here endeth today's lesson.
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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#3 Postby seyorni » October 23rd, 2010, 7:39 pm

"Attribution of physical causes to something that is not physical"?
I think of it more as not attributing causes at all, or attributing supernatural, magical causes -- effect without cause.

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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#4 Postby Alan C. » October 23rd, 2010, 8:16 pm

I don't usually feed trolls but J J.......
For example, to say that "religion is superstitious" mocks the person who says it.
I'd love to know how you come to some of your ridiculous conclusions.
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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#5 Postby Maria Mac » October 23rd, 2010, 8:19 pm

Alan H wrote:Here endeth today's lesson.

That's a bit unfair. The word 'lesson' implies there is something to be learned in it.

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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#6 Postby Alan C. » October 23rd, 2010, 8:29 pm

This forum is about debate (isn't it?) Has J J ever responded to anything anyone has posted in reply to his op's?
What's your agenda J J if you don't want to debate?
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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#7 Postby John Jones » October 24th, 2010, 2:31 am

seyorni wrote:"Attribution of physical causes to something that is not physical"?
I think of it more as not attributing causes at all, or attributing supernatural, magical causes -- effect without cause.


Your reference to "supernatural" presented the odd idea that non-physical events are wrongly attributed to physical events. But it is you who presented that idea! I rest my case.

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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#8 Postby John Jones » October 24th, 2010, 2:34 am

Maria wrote:
Alan H wrote:Here endeth today's lesson.

That's a bit unfair. The word 'lesson' implies there is something to be learned in it.



God help us all if we are looking for facts.

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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#9 Postby jaywhat » October 24th, 2010, 6:28 am

Alan C. wrote:I don't usually feed trolls but J J......


Nor wums.

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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#10 Postby Alan H » October 24th, 2010, 10:32 am

John Jones wrote:
Maria wrote:
Alan H wrote:Here endeth today's lesson.

That's a bit unfair. The word 'lesson' implies there is something to be learned in it.



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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#11 Postby Alan C. » October 24th, 2010, 6:15 pm

jaywhat wrote:
Alan C. wrote:I don't usually feed trolls but J J......


Nor wums.

Wot's a wum jay? :puzzled:
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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#12 Postby ludite » October 24th, 2010, 7:44 pm

I feel another headache coming on

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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#13 Postby Dave B » October 24th, 2010, 9:56 pm

Yeah, wum is right, Jaywhat.
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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#14 Postby Alan C. » October 24th, 2010, 10:08 pm

Thanks for nowt jaywhat & Dave, I googled it.
It's not an acronym I was familiar with.
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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#15 Postby Alan H » October 24th, 2010, 10:14 pm

Alan C. wrote:Thanks for nowt jaywhat & Dave, I googled it.
It's not an acronym I was familiar with.
I had to look it up too!
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#16 Postby Dave B » October 24th, 2010, 10:16 pm

Sorry guys, I genuinely did not realise you were asking a serious question Alan C! You have obviously never spent much time on the BBC boards! Wums galore on there.
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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#17 Postby Dave B » October 24th, 2010, 10:19 pm

How about sock puppets? Alternative logins, often used wums so they seem to get support.
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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#18 Postby getreal » October 24th, 2010, 10:57 pm

Oh! I know what a sock puupet is! The local forum has them in spadeloads (though it's a small village and everyone knows who they are!)

I shall have to look up wums, though.
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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#19 Postby jaywhat » October 25th, 2010, 5:44 am

I made it up = :hilarity:

.... but it probably exists; if not, the copyright is MINE.

Though DB seems to know - perhaps he is one!



wind up merchant

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Re: Humanism and Superstition

#20 Postby jaywhat » October 26th, 2010, 9:07 am

and there is, of course --

a boa wum

= a bit of a wind up merchant :laughter:



and why on earth this comes in :'Humanism and Superstition', I CFTLOM understand.


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