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But is it art?

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Alan H
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Re: But is it art?

#121 Post by Alan H » March 9th, 2013, 12:37 am

Latest post of the previous page:

Read the introduction, then watch the video.

Marina Abramovic and Ulay
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: But is it art?

#122 Post by Dave B » March 9th, 2013, 9:31 am

I think its called love.
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Re: But is it art?

#123 Post by Dave B » April 26th, 2013, 8:48 pm

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Re: But is it art?

#124 Post by Alan H » May 3rd, 2013, 10:43 am

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: But is it art?

#125 Post by getreal » May 4th, 2013, 11:26 pm

Alan H wrote:
No It's mechanics.
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Re: But is it art?

#126 Post by Alan H » May 4th, 2013, 11:31 pm

getreal wrote:
Alan H wrote:
No It's mechanics.
Quite. And skill. But it is still amazing!
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: But is it art?

#127 Post by getreal » May 4th, 2013, 11:34 pm

I died of boredom
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Re: But is it art?

#128 Post by Alan H » May 4th, 2013, 11:44 pm

getreal wrote:I died of boredom
I understand, but I hope you skipped to the end?
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: But is it art?

#129 Post by getreal » May 4th, 2013, 11:57 pm

Yes I did. Unfortunatly, it didn't meet my expectations. David Bowie didn't appear at all. Very disappointing indeed.
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Re: But is it art?

#130 Post by Alan H » May 5th, 2013, 12:08 am

:pointlaugh:
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: But is it art?

#131 Post by Dave B » May 5th, 2013, 9:32 am

getreal wrote:Yes I did. Unfortunatly, it didn't meet my expectations. David Bowie didn't appear at all. Very disappointing indeed.
getreal, 'mornin, you seem to have acquired what looks like an advertising link on the word "amazed", was this intentional or has someone "got at" this site?
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Re: But is it art?

#132 Post by Alan H » May 5th, 2013, 9:46 am

Dave B wrote:
getreal wrote:Yes I did. Unfortunatly, it didn't meet my expectations. David Bowie didn't appear at all. Very disappointing indeed.
getreal, 'mornin, you seem to have acquired what looks like an advertising link on the word "amazed", was this intentional or has someone "got at" this site?
Neither - it's your browser! Usually some browser toolbar or something. Have you installed or updated something recently? Is there just the one link?
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: But is it art?

#133 Post by Dave B » May 5th, 2013, 10:11 am

Yes! bloody IE9! I downloaded it to try to work something out for a friend and kept getting nag screens to download other stuff. I did wonder is it was part of the same problem.

Have just restored my system to a restore point in the early am (when Windows did an update) before I downloaded IE.

Not IE's fault, just have to be more careful which sites I get such stuff from. Have also sent the site an email saying that such behaviour absolutely guarantees my never using their site again! Won't do much good, just vents my spleen a little!

Must remember to set a recovery point before all future downloads!

Should have added that the link has now disappeared, a good sign!
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Re: But is it art?

#134 Post by Alan H » August 3rd, 2013, 10:24 am

You did want to see giraffes diving off the 5m80 diving board into a swimming pool, didn't you?

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: But is it art?

#135 Post by Fia » August 4th, 2013, 5:54 pm

I wasnae sure, but yes, I did want to see that. Thank you :D

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Re: But is it art?

#136 Post by Maria Mac » August 4th, 2013, 6:35 pm

I have to wonder what they were on when they thought that one up. :shock:

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Re: But is it art?

#137 Post by Dave B » August 4th, 2013, 9:37 pm

I wonder how many man days of programming it took.

And why they bothered.
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Re: But is it art?

#138 Post by Alan H » August 4th, 2013, 10:17 pm

Dave B wrote:I wonder how many man days of programming it took.

And why they bothered.
Philistine!

I think it shows just how close to realism computer graphics are. I've seen other examples (and some of the TV ads for computer games) - it can be difficult to tell.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: But is it art?

#139 Post by Dave B » August 5th, 2013, 9:31 am

Alan H wrote:[Philistine!
:laughter:
Alan H wrote:I think it shows just how close to realism computer graphics are. I've seen other examples (and some of the TV ads for computer games) - it can be difficult to tell.
Agreed, but is that always a good thing? I don't consider it art, just another form of graphic engineering. I have a neighbour who can make airbrush images that are photographic in their quality, but it is a "mechanical" process. He is not an artist and admits it, he is a graphics technician. He cannot create anything, he merely copies what is, maybe enhancing it if given instruction and told what is needed. This, to my mind, is the same, the only "creative" part of it is the concept of the giraffes high diving, but that is not art.

I have come to dislike science fiction films that are mainly a vehicle for the "skill of the graphics technicians, they did not improve "Total Recall" one little bit as a story in the remake in my mind.

When this becomes a common political tool (if it is not already, how often do we hear the phrase, "This footage has not been verified"?) no image, still or moving, will be trustworthy. The better they make it the less we will trust it.

The "dark side" of technical art?
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Re: But is it art?

#140 Post by Alan H » September 28th, 2013, 11:09 am

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: But is it art?

#141 Post by Dave B » September 28th, 2013, 1:26 pm

Seeing the numbers is bad enough but seeing just what those fallen soldiers would look like (though not with the gore, the smell and the noise of the real thing) brings it right home.

I think it is art, ephemeral maybe but it has a message, makes one think and, no doubt, invokes comment.
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