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Re: The new insomniacs' thread

#81 Post by Maria Mac » October 15th, 2008, 6:07 am

Latest post of the previous page:

Everybody sleeping OK at the moment then?

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Re: The new insomniacs' thread

#82 Post by MedMae » October 15th, 2008, 8:32 am

Maria wrote:Everybody sleeping OK at the moment then?
I wish.
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Re: The new insomniacs' thread

#83 Post by lukanator » October 28th, 2008, 10:55 am

I woke up at 1:30 am, after nodding off around 8:30pm. It just worked out that way. I wish it were different, but it's a weird life I live right now...somewhat a-structural.

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Re: The new insomniacs' thread

#84 Post by Alan H » December 17th, 2008, 5:57 am

Ho hum...Woke up with a tickle in my throat and started coughing, so decided to get up while Maria was still asleep (I hope!)

Throat has subsided, so back to bed soon.
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Re: The new insomniacs' thread

#85 Post by jaywhat » December 17th, 2008, 6:35 am

Hope your throat hasn't subsided too far or you will be talking out of your arse - again.
:laughter:

..and hey! what do you mean 'back to bed' at 5.30 something - I am up doing things

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Re: The new insomniacs' thread

#86 Post by Val » December 17th, 2008, 8:22 pm

jaywhat wrote:Hope your throat hasn't subsided too far or you will be talking out of your arse - again.
:laughter:

..and hey! what do you mean 'back to bed' at 5.30 something - I am up doing things

Don't brag Jaywhat about being up and doing things at 5.30 am. It is normal for OLD people to need less sleep than youngsters.

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#87 Post by Alan H » December 17th, 2008, 8:52 pm

Well said, Val!



*not looking forward being another year older in a couple of weeks... :sad:
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#88 Post by Alan C. » December 17th, 2008, 9:14 pm

*not looking forward being another year older in a couple of weeks...
You wont be another year older in a couple of weeks, you'll only be a couple of weeks older.
There now..................Feel better? :smile:
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Re: The new insomniacs' thread

#89 Post by Alan H » December 17th, 2008, 9:20 pm

:laughter: :hilarity: :pointlaugh: :happyclappy: :clap: :party: :scorepoint: :thumbsup: :kiss: :wave:
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#90 Post by Alan C. » December 17th, 2008, 10:03 pm

Alan H wrote::laughter: :hilarity: :pointlaugh: :happyclappy: :clap: :party: :scorepoint: :thumbsup: :kiss: :wave:
Glad that cheered you up, take succour [sp] in the fact that you will never be the same age (note, avoids the trap of saying "as old as")
As myself.
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#91 Post by Alan H » December 17th, 2008, 10:06 pm

Alan C. wrote:Or does everybody palm you off with that Nah, it's too near Christmas bolony?
Yep! The story of my life!
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1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#92 Post by Val » December 17th, 2008, 10:20 pm

MedMae wrote:
Maria wrote:Everybody sleeping OK at the moment then?
I wish.

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#93 Post by jaywhat » December 18th, 2008, 7:33 am

Val wrote: Don't brag Jaywhat about being up and doing things at 5.30 am. It is normal for OLD people to need less sleep than youngsters.
It was nice of you to put OLD in upper case, Val. I think it shows RESPECT. However a little bit of me thinks you were attempting to be humorous. As it happens I am not yet old enough to need less sleep. I just go to bed early - like my mummy tells me to..

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#94 Post by Maria Mac » December 18th, 2008, 8:12 am

Alan H wrote:
Alan C. wrote:Or does everybody palm you off with that Nah, it's too near Christmas bolony?
Yep! The story of my life!
That's a bit unfair. You know I don't say "Nah, it's too near xmas'. I say 'We're too old to bother with birthdays and xmas'. And I don't buy him a present for either.

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#95 Post by Alan H » December 18th, 2008, 10:47 am

Maria wrote:And I don't buy him a present for either.
At least you're consistent, dear! :exit:
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#96 Post by Emma Woolgatherer » March 5th, 2009, 11:52 pm

Can I ask a question on behalf of my mum, who has had chronic insomnia for many years? It's particularly severe at the moment, and it's getting her down. A lot. And because she's frail and elderly and anaemic and has chronic back pain, it's difficult for her to make the kind of changes that might help, like only using her bed for sleeping in, and getting plenty of exercise and sunlight. Anyway, apologies if this has already been mentioned on the thread, but has anyone tried bright light therapy? In particular, one of those light boxes or lamps like this one? If so, I'd be very interested to hear what success, if any, you've had with it.

Also, I've just pre-ordered the latest edition of a book called "Say Goodnight to Insomnia: A Drug-free Programme Developed at Harvard Medical School", by Gregg D. Jacobs, due to be released in the UK on 3 April. Jacobs uses cognitive behavioural therapy to treat insomnia (and he recommends bright light therapy too). Has anyone read the previous edition of this book? Or any other books on insomnia they could recommend?

Emma

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#97 Post by Alan H » March 6th, 2009, 12:03 am

Cochrane has a few papers on light therapy, like this one:
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Light therapy for non-seasonal depression
http://www.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab004050.html
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Light treatment for non-seasonal depression

The reviewers conclude that the benefit of light treatment is modest though promising for non-seasonal depression. The short-term treatment as well as light administered in the morning and with concomitant sleep deprivation in sleep deprivation responders appear to be most beneficial for treatment response. Hypomania as a potential adverse effect needs to be considered. Due to limited data and heterogeneity of studies these results need to be interpreted with caution.

[Retrieved: Fri Mar 06 2009 00:01:56 GMT+0000 (GMT Standard Time)]

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This is about non-seasonal, but the only other one I can immediately see is for SAD, but has been withdrawn. May be worth a full search.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#98 Post by Nick » March 18th, 2009, 5:05 am

For some reason it's my turn tonight. I'm not looking forward to the feeling of exhaustion that will come when I should be wide awake...... Luckily it doesn't happen to me very often. Emma, your mum has my sympathy.

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#99 Post by Alan H » March 18th, 2009, 9:36 am

Sorry to hear that, Nick. I hope the fantastic Spring weather this morning will brighten your (sleepy) day!
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#100 Post by Alan H » September 5th, 2009, 11:32 pm

Doing this now to save me doing it in the middle of the night.

If got a cold and I have toothache [---][/---] the latter, I think, mostly because I'm feeling a bit run down. Didn't get much sleep last night, had a long day giving a training course, but, even though I'm tired, will be dosed up on Lemsip (other cold remedies available) and ibuprofen, probably won't get much sleep.

If I don't, I might get a MediaScan done. Or a new blog post.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#101 Post by Alan C. » September 5th, 2009, 11:48 pm

A MediaScan while suffering toothache! That's dedication :thumbsup:
Seriously Alan, hope you don't suffer too much.
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