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I think we should have been told...

#1 Post by Alan H » August 23rd, 2007, 1:16 pm

I hope a certain prolific poster can give a good account of herself for this...
Loose Moose -Times Online ... 310544.ece

Loose Moose
Blaming global warming on moose flatulence is surely just so much hot air

Of all the pesky beasts you could pick on – alligators, cobras, sharks, Paris Hilton – why pick on a moose? Because it looks like a cross between a tall donkey and a hat rack? Because it is often depicted as having a brain as bright as a guttering torchbulb? Yet researchers in Norway are blaming the moose for worsening climate change, claiming that an adult can expel 2,100 kilos of methane gas a year – equivalent to the carbon dioxide a car produces on a 13,000km journey.

So are scientists saying that climate change is all down to moose flatulence? No! It is also down to moose belching. And the methane these generate is more toxic for the environment than CO2 .

It’s true that Norway’s moose don’t seem to lead a very enterprising life. Apart from manufacturing methane, and grazing while moving backwards (because, as Pliny the Elder noted in his Natural History of AD77, the moose’s upper lip is so large that “by moving onwards, the lip would get doubled up”), the moose has little to pass its time. If you could eavesdrop on a Norwegian moose conversation, it would sound like this:

First Moose: Hey, Gunnar. How’s it going?

Second Moose: Hang on, Henry. . . that’s better.

First Moose: Whoooh, Gunnar! How about a little warning next time, if you wouldn’t mind!

But the moose is a proud beast. It’s Norway’s national animal. President Theodore Roosevelt once boasted: “I am as strong as a bull moose.” Moose were the pin-ups of Stone Age cavemen.

So give moose a break. You want to cut greenhouse gases? Here’s a moose-friendly way how: fly on planes less; travel on mooseback instead.

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Moose with wind are worse than gas guzzlers - Times Online ... 310627.ece

Moose with wind are worse than gas guzzlers
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They are dubbed the “Kings of the Forest” and are regarded by Norwegians as their national symbol.

Now, though, scientists have claimed that because of their burping and farting, the placid moose is an eco killer. During a single year, according to new research, a full-grown moose expels – from both ends – the methane equivalent of 2,100kg of carbon dioxide emissions. That is said to be as destructive for the atmosphere as the emissions released by 13,000km (8,000 miles) of car travel.

“To put it into perspective, the return flight from Oslo to Santiago in Chile leaves a carbon footprint of 880 kilos,” said the biologist Reidar Andersen, a biologist. “Shoot a moose and you have saved the equivalent of two long-haul flights.” The findings, from the technical university in Trondheim, place Scandinavians in a dilemma. Many are dedicated winter season tourists to Asian destinations such as Bali and Thailand. Is shooting moose about to become a fashionable way of easing their troubled envi-ronmental consciences? Researchers in Scotland and Wales have been examining how the feeding of dairy cows could be changed to cut back their gaseous belching. No such work has been possible, however, on the 120,000 wild moose in Norway.

Already, though, climate change is alleged to have so altered their eating habits that they are involved in an en-vironmentally vicious circle of increasing gas emissions. It began when snows started to recede in Norway. “Moose normally eat branches in the winter, a not particularly nutritious diet,” said Erling Solberg, of the Norwegian Institute for Nature Research. “But since snow has become so much rarer they have access to wild blueberries.”
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The result has been fatter moose that are more likely to break wind. Moreover, better-fed, the moose have started to reproduce more quickly and herds are swelling.

Last winter there were reports of moose straying into towns in search of food – eating Christmas decorations and even smashing shop windows to reach displayed vegetables.

Norwegians are therefore pleading for higher hunt quotas to keep moose numbers down and the gas emissions under control. The hunting season begins on September 25 and the authorities have allowed a kill-quota of 35,000.

“Think of it this way,” said Professor Andersen, who hunts moose as well as researching them. “Remove a moose from the world and you have saved the equivalent of 36 flights between Oslo and Trondheim.”

The Kyoto protocol counts a tonne of expelled methane as the equivalent of 21 tonnes of carbon dioxide.

80 million metric tons of methane produced annually by ruminant livestock worldwide

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#2 Post by verte » August 23rd, 2007, 1:27 pm

Oh, there now, dear Moosey, please don't be ashamed. Our own Fearless Leader gives off more flatulence than an entire herd of moose. (((Moosey)))

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#3 Post by Moose » August 24th, 2007, 3:29 pm

Ah, people are throwing this article at me all over the internet :redface: . I think I'll change my name to IamYak!

Yaks don't fart, right? :grin:
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#4 Post by Alan H » August 24th, 2007, 6:59 pm

Moose wrote:Yaks don't fart, right? :grin:
Errr...I have no idea! :puzzled:

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#5 Post by Alan C. » August 24th, 2007, 8:12 pm

Even the Queen farts, but for persistent farters Bull Terriers take some beating.
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#6 Post by jaywhat » August 25th, 2007, 6:37 am

She then blames a corgi and gets butler to kick it.

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#7 Post by Nick » August 25th, 2007, 11:30 am

I've heard that she is so refined that she farts in B flat major :grin:

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#8 Post by Dawn » August 25th, 2007, 4:54 pm

Have you tried "Beano" Moosey? :grin: On this side of the pond it is something you take to prevent your problem. :laughter:

No wonder those Corgis have anger management issues!

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#9 Post by Maria Mac » August 25th, 2007, 7:03 pm

You can't get Beano over here. I've had varied reports of its effectiveness anyway.

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#10 Post by Shake » August 29th, 2007, 7:20 pm

First it was the cows, now moose! What next?

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#11 Post by Nick » August 29th, 2007, 7:28 pm

I'm saying nothing, Shake! :grin:

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#12 Post by Moose » August 31st, 2007, 2:44 pm

What IS beano? I thought it was a comic :D
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#13 Post by Lord Muck oGentry » September 22nd, 2007, 2:15 am

jaywhat wrote:She then blames a corgi and gets butler to kick it.
Ancient joke: E II R is entertaining the Ruritanian Ambassador, when one of the corgis lets fly a real cheek-rattler.

E II R : Your Excellency, I do beg your pardon!

His Excellency: No need, Your Majesty. I thought it was the dog...

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#14 Post by Bryn » September 22nd, 2007, 8:45 am


Moose wrote:What IS beano? I thought it was a comic :D
A little white pill that you swallow before eat beans.

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