Gnostic Bishop wrote: ↑July 13th, 2022, 3:56 pm
Compassionist wrote: ↑July 13th, 2022, 1:08 pm
In an ideal reality, all beings have an infinite quality of life for an infinite length of time. We don't live in an ideal reality. Yes, over the years humans have improved their quality of life compared to how things were in the past, but compared to an infinite quality of life and an infinite length of life, it is appalling. Also, 99.9% of the species to evolve so far on Earth are already extinct. How is that good for them? Evolution is mindless, cruel, and unjust. It is as mindless as the reality we exist in. It does not care about living things or else, no living thing would ever suffer or die. We live in a horrific and unjust reality. I have read Steven Pinker's books. He said inequality is natural. I agree. So are diseases and natural disasters. Just because something is natural, it does not make it good or wise or right.
So you would have all live forever in bliss.
Quite a boring wish list. Perhaps that is why nature chose the better form of evolution we live.
You seem to be judging nature and deciding that it should favor certain types of life.
I think that life is just life to nature, be it intelligent or not.
You seem to see nature as immoral while I see it as amoral.
Nature, being non-sentient, I don't think we can really speak of it's moral position.
Tell me though, as you have competed with others and have cause the evil of lose to the loser, would you let yourself lose a competition, let's say for a job, and let the other win?
Not likely my friend, which means that you use evolution in a way you do not want to.
We must all do it so as the fittest can be recognized and followed.
If you have a better system in mind, show how the fittest can be found without a competition.
Regards
DL
How can an infinite number of omnibenevolent, omniscient, and omnipotent beings who each have an infinite quality of life for an infinite length of time and who own an infinite number of universes each, be bored?
Living things are not the fittest. I am not the fittest. You are not the fittest. 99.9% of all the species to evolve on Earth have gone extinct, not because they were unworthy of existence but because reality does not care about their existence. The 0.1% of the species that are still around are not the fittest of all the living things that have ever lived. We have merely slipped through the cracks of the killing machine of reality. Although, we won't slip through the cracks forever - death is coming for all of us. Every nanosecond we move closer to death.
We are unfortunate and limited and mortal beings who are doomed to suffer and die. My brother's brain was damaged during a forceps delivery and he died as a result. If the same event happened to all the human babies, they too, would have died. My brother did not die because he was unfit to live, he died because of the carelessness of a doctor. There is nothing fair about life in the real world. It is a horror movie without a plot or meaning.
Many living things have died due to earthquakes, storms, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions, floods, asteroid strikes, etc. There is nothing good or wise or just about natural selection.
In my vision of an ideal world there is no competition and there is no need for competition. I envision an egalitarian reality where everyone loves everyone and are perfect in every way. How can any living thing be fitter than an infinite number of omnibenevolent, omniscient and omnipotent beings?
I am all too aware that I am comparing a fantasy of an ideal reality to the defects of actual reality.
I have lost most of the competitions I have taken part in. I hate competitions. It brings out the worst in living things. I want all beings to win at everything and they can only do that if there is no competition. That's why in my ideal reality, there are in infinite number of equally omnibenevolent, omniscient and omnipotent beings who all have equally infinite quality of life and who all live forever and are all equally rich owners of an infinite number of universes each. I know it's a fantasy. I know that as I type these words, living things are suffering and dying and I am powerless to turn my fantasy into reality.
