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Cryptic clues

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Re: Cryptic clues

#341 Post by petemster » March 5th, 2011, 3:31 pm

Latest post of the previous page:

Hi Nick,

I've printed off your post number 6056 (wow)
I'll try it a bit at a time.

8d - Test the quality of lead-free fuel, for example (5)

You're right - ASSAY - - - - lead-free, I think, means "leading-letter-free" (not pb-free)
which then would be (my guess) GAS SAY = (G) ASSAY


17ac - Polite fellow, more or less, with a shed (8)

Animist's answer looks right : MANNERLY - which is "polite"

fellow = MAN - - - - NERLY = nearly (more or less) if you shed the "a"

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Re: Cryptic clues

#342 Post by petemster » March 5th, 2011, 3:41 pm

Nick,

7ac. Effect of erosion complete after rock face splits like this (7,4)

I think the answer to this must be : SWALLOW HOLE - which is a sinkhole type of thing
- which is the first part "Effect of erosion".

- complete = W HOLE - - - rock face = WALL -
so. . . . WHOLE comes after WALL which splits the word SO (= like this) - i.e. SWALLOW HOLE

Does that make sense ? Does it change other things ?

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Re: Cryptic clues

#343 Post by Nick » March 5th, 2011, 3:59 pm

petemster wrote:Hi Nick,

I've printed off your post number 6056 (wow)
I know. A bit sad. Never mind- I enjoy the virtual (and sometimes actual) company of my fellow TH'ers. None of whom I would have met without TH.
I'll try it a bit at a time.

8d - Test the quality of lead-free fuel, for example (5)

You're right - ASSAY - - - - lead-free, I think, means "leading-letter-free" (not pb-free)
which then would be (my guess) GAS SAY = (G) ASSAY
Yup! Good enough for me!
17ac - Polite fellow, more or less, with a shed (8)

Animist's answer looks right : MANNERLY - which is "polite"

fellow = MAN - - - - NERLY = nearly (more or less) if you shed the "a"
I was almost there! I was taking less of more ie RE, but couldn't find an A to shed....

Great! On we go!

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Re: Cryptic clues

#344 Post by Nick » March 5th, 2011, 4:06 pm

petemster wrote:Nick,

7ac. Effect of erosion complete after rock face splits like this (7,4)

I think the answer to this must be : SWALLOW HOLE - which is a sinkhole type of thing
- which is the first part "Effect of erosion".

- complete = W HOLE - - - rock face = WALL -
so. . . . WHOLE comes after WALL which splits the word SO (= like this) - i.e. SWALLOW HOLE

Does that make sense ? Does it change other things ?
It makes perfect sense.

But it changes things thus:

HOLE gives us 2 revised letters for 11d and 12d.

11d. Poacher regularly seen with many cats (7) O-E---S



12d. Area producing old Spanish wine? (6) E-T---

Could that be ESTATE?

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Re: Cryptic clues

#345 Post by petemster » March 5th, 2011, 4:51 pm

Hi Nick,

Your frequent contributions to this forum are very much appreciated by one and all, I'm very sure.
I'm thoroughly enjoying my visits here, thanks to you and other regulars!

Now, about these clues. They make more sense now.

11d. Poacher regularly seen with many cats (7)

- I'd say that is OCELOTS - - - where "regularly" means every second letter (not the odd letters) as you no doubt
already know. So, from "poacher" that gives us : - O - C - E - plus LOTS (many) = "cats"


12d. Area producing old Spanish wine (6) - This looks like - EXTENT (area)
- from EX (old) and TENT ( a Spanish wine )

Do these fit in ?

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Re: Cryptic clues

#346 Post by petemster » March 5th, 2011, 5:20 pm

animist wrote:
petemster wrote:< . . . my pet subject is jazz >

No, jazz doesn't come up very often. Do jazz enthusiasts have a different kind of brain ?
Are jazz enthusiasts supposed to be more intelligent than other humans ?
I don't know, why do you say this? (but yes of course we are) :laughter: Actually, I meant to ask you about my "Coolin' Off With Ulanov" Henny Penny clue, which you got - do you know the tune (which I adore) or did you google it?
Hello Animist,

I have to say that I'm not a jazz fan myself, although my wife quite likes it.

Re your Henny Penny clue, it was just a case of looking up Google for Lennie Tristano and then
checking out Wikipedia. Et voilà !

About the brain type, I think that musical preference is innate, and maybe there's a subject there for
psychologists to have a go at.
My query about intelligence was only half in jest. I know two local guys who are into jazz and they are
most definitely very intelligent men indeed.

One of them is Bill Sweeney the composer, and the other is Richard Edwards, Consultant Interventiontional
Radiologist at the local hospital, who once loaned me a bunch of modern-jazz albums in a futile attempt
to improve my musical taste. :shrug:

That's life.

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Re: Cryptic clues

#347 Post by animist » March 5th, 2011, 6:20 pm

dock ration from ornament in historic visual style (3,4)


petemster wrote:One of them is Bill Sweeney the composer, and the other is Richard Edwards, Consultant Interventiontional Radiologist at the local hospital, who once loaned me a bunch of modern-jazz albums in a futile attempt to improve my musical taste. :shrug:
wonder if they like Lennie Tristano (like several other great pianists, he was blind)

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Re: Cryptic clues

#348 Post by petemster » March 5th, 2011, 6:32 pm

.

- ART DECO ?

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Re: Cryptic clues

#349 Post by animist » March 5th, 2011, 6:36 pm

yes - why don't you set another? We'll try really hard this time!

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Re: Cryptic clues

#350 Post by petemster » March 5th, 2011, 9:10 pm

Here's something to keep it going while I'm down the pub.

1. Waste a prize (7)

2. Greedily eat bird (5)

3. A foreign second team is seen to slacken off (7)

4. Foreign student among one thousand in confusion (10)

5. Act normal (8)

Hope I don't forget the answers.

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Re: Cryptic clues

#351 Post by petemster » March 6th, 2011, 1:32 am

The good thing about doing crosswords is that we can start with the easy ones
and then tackle the harder ones when we have established some of the letters to help us.

Without some letters to work with, the harder clues might be impossible to solve.
So, in fairness, here are some letters to help with the above clues.

1. Waste a prize (7) : A - - - - - -

2. Greedily eat bird (5) : R - - - -

3. A foreign second team is seen to slacken off (7) : U - - - - - -

4. Foreign student among one thousand in confusion (10) : O - - - - - - - - -

5. Act normal (8) : R - - - - - -

Hope that helps.

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Re: Cryptic clues

#352 Post by animist » March 6th, 2011, 8:39 am

raven for number 2? - I did get that before I saw the R, but thanks for the help!

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Re: Cryptic clues

#353 Post by Dave B » March 6th, 2011, 9:33 am

Coo, learn something every day, didn't know "raven" was also a verb, "to eat greedily" - but then one thinks of "ravenous".
"Look forward; yesterday was a lesson, if you did not learn from it you wasted it."
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Re: Cryptic clues

#354 Post by petemster » March 6th, 2011, 9:50 am

I tried to do a post earlier but I must have hit the wrong button or something - here goes again.
First I have to apologise for a mistake : Number 5 only has 7 letters. Doh.

Yes, Animist. Well done. - No.2 is RAVEN - as in "ravenous".

1. Waste a prize (7) : A - - - - - -

2. Greedily eat bird (5) : RAVEN (animist)

3. A foreign second team is seen to slacken off (7) : U - - - - - -

4. Foreign student among one thousand in confusion (10) : O - - - - - - - - -

5. Act normal (7) : R - - - - - -

Four to go. I'm standing in the dunce's corner until the bell goes.

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Re: Cryptic clues

#355 Post by animist » March 6th, 2011, 7:07 pm

think number one is atrophy

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Re: Cryptic clues

#356 Post by petemster » March 6th, 2011, 7:11 pm

animist wrote:think number one is atrophy
Yes. Good. Two completed, three to go.

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Re: Cryptic clues

#357 Post by Dave B » March 6th, 2011, 9:25 pm

Is 3. UNSCREW?

Not my turn to offer a clue for solving but this one has just "unfolded" in my head:

The sailor and the good man get together with a deceitful plan that's hard to understand (8)
"Look forward; yesterday was a lesson, if you did not learn from it you wasted it."
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Re: Cryptic clues

#358 Post by petemster » March 6th, 2011, 9:33 pm

Dave B wrote:Is 3. UNSCREW?
Yes. Well done, Dave B. Another one bites the dust !

3. A foreign second team is seen to slacken off (7) = UNSCREW

- "A" in French = UN . . . S (second) . . . CREW (team) = to slacken off (e.g. corks etc.)

Only two left !

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Re: Cryptic clues

#359 Post by petemster » March 7th, 2011, 12:09 am

Dave B wrote:Is 3. UNSCREW?

Not my turn to offer a clue for solving but this one has just "unfolded" in my head:

The sailor and the good man get together with a deceitful plan that's hard to understand (8)

Is it : abstruse ?

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Re: Cryptic clues

#360 Post by petemster » March 7th, 2011, 12:14 am

Two clues left - here's another letter

4. Foreign student among one thousand in confusion (10) : O - - - - - - I - -

5. Act normal (7) : R - - - I - -

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Re: Cryptic clues

#361 Post by Dave B » March 7th, 2011, 11:56 am

petemster wrote:
Dave B wrote:Is 3. UNSCREW?

Not my turn to offer a clue for solving but this one has just "unfolded" in my head:

The sailor and the good man get together with a deceitful plan that's hard to understand (8)

Is it : abstruse ?
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