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Re: Atheist/Humanist Values/Doctrine lists

#21 Post by coffee » December 9th, 2019, 9:29 am

Latest post of the previous page:

Spiritual or atheist? More nonbelievers are saying ‘both.’

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2 ... aying-both

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In a letter up for auction, Albert Einstein talked about admiring “in humility the beautiful harmony of the structure of the world.” More nonbelievers say they are seeking that sense of awe. What does spirituality look like when separated from faith?

March 11, 2019

TWO WAYS TO READ THE STORY
By Harry Bruinius Staff writer
@HarryBruinius

NEW YORK

In the summer of 1945, Albert Einstein typed a note to a young ensign stationed aboard a U.S. aircraft carrier out in the Pacific, responding to the passionate letter he’d received from him the month before.

A Jesuit priest had told the ensign he had convinced the famous physicist to believe in “a supreme intellect who governs the world.” The ensign was shocked, and he wrote to Einstein to offer a number of arguments against such an idea.

In his reply, a letter that is up for auction at Bonhams in New York, Einstein dismisses the tale, saying that from “the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist.” The “anthropomorphical concepts” in religion are “childish analogies,” he wrote.

As an artifact of America’s religious history, there is something familiar in the tone of these two atheists: the earnestness, the certainty, the near mocking tone toward “childish” religious beliefs.

But Einstein also closed his letter with a sentiment that is often overlooked in the complicated and, in fact, wildly diverse landscape of American nonbelief, including atheism and its less strident cousin, agnosticism. And many see his closing sentiment as really quite spiritual:


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“We have to admire in humility the beautiful harmony of the structure of the world – as far as we can grasp it. And that is all,” wrote the physicist who changed the course of human history.

Americans have long been uneasy with those who say they don’t believe in God. As a whole, Americans have consistently reported that they view atheists with more suspicion than any other group, whether ethnic, racial, or religious – including Muslims. Even as the country has become, overall, more tolerant and more accepting of other faith traditions, atheism has long remained the conspicuous exception.

A decade ago, the public face of atheism was dominated by a cadre of aggressive and media-savvy thinkers who were cheekily dubbed “the four horsemen” – the biologist Richard Dawkins, the philosopher Daniel Dennett, and the cultural critics Sam Harris and the late Christopher Hitchens – who railed against the “God delusion” and ridiculed traditional faith and piety as “childish analogies.”

But as with many religious communities – or in this case, areligious communities – the voices that often dominate the digital pulses of modern media often belie the steady hum of people’s daily lives and lived beliefs, and the wide range of historic institutions and moral commitments in which American nonbelievers have been more likely to express humility, compassion, and lovingkindness.

“Those who are theists tend to conflate nontheism, atheism, humanism – they don’t see that there is a spectrum of differing perspectives,” says Anne Klaeysen, a leader in the New York Society for Ethical Culture and the humanist chaplain at New York University. “And on the other hand, we have what I call fundamentalist atheists, who look at all theists as the same.”

“I am not a big fan of the so-called new atheists,” she continues. “They lack an intellectual and a moral humility about the world and about people’s beliefs.”

Platform address on the ‘God letters’
On Sunday, the “platform address,” aka “sermon,” at the Society for Ethical Culture, a nontheistic community founded in 1876, was a meditation on another of Einstein’s “God letters,” Ms. Klaeysen says. In this letter (which Christie’s recently auctioned for $2.9 million), the physicist explains his rejection of a supernatural God, but explains how he is deeply religious.

Indeed, whether it’s the humility and awe that many feel before “the beautiful harmony” of the universe, or perhaps even the feelings of fear and trembling before its sheer cosmic vastness, many among the estimated 30 million Americans who say they don’t believe in God have been exploring what could be called nontheistic forms of spirituality.

Rather than emphasizing centuries-old objections to supernaturalism or the idea of a personal and perhaps patriarchal God, an array of American atheists, agnostics, and humanists have turned toward what they describe as a deeply felt impulse to participate in communities that mark the rhythms of life and death, and work to build moral character and a better world.

This isn’t really anything new in the American religious landscape, notes Bart Campolo, the humanist chaplain at the University of Cincinnati in Ohio and a “community builder” for self-described religious humanists.

For him, “the awe and wonder that naturally arise from contemplating the universe” is just the starting point for humanist leaders like him. Today, he and others are seeking to “encourage such contemplation and then help people practically translate those noble emotions into lovingkindness,” says Mr. Campolo, a former Evangelical pastor.

“So the question is, hey, how do we translate that, or how do we manifest that in a group when the narrative at the center of it isn’t, we should pursue lovingkindness because God commands it, or because we’ll go to heaven if we do it, but rather, we should pursue lovingkindness because it’s the most sensible way of trying to flourish as a human being.”

Like Mr. Campolo, more Americans have begun to turn away from organized religion. The millennial generation, especially, has been at the center of one of the fastest-growing religious cohorts in the nation – the so-called nones, a culturally diverse group of Americans who no longer check a specific faith tradition as part of their identities. But even those who say there is no God have begun to reject easy labels, experts say.


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“So many labels try to define people by what they are not – spiritual-but-not-religious, non-believers, atheists, even religious ‘nones’,” says Douglas Hicks, dean and professor of religion at Oxford College of Emory University in Georgia, via email. “But everyone has a worldview and it is often incredibly profound. They often have layers of moral complexity that defy labels.”

‘I don’t want to be defined by what I’m not’
This has made the job of demographers and pollsters difficult. Today, the burgeoning number of “nones” has swelled to about 25 percent of the population, Pew Research Center reports. These include the growing number of Americans who call themselves “atheists,” about 3 percent of the population, and “agnostics,” or those who believe the existence of God cannot be known, and who make up about 4 percent of the population.

Surveys that try to gauge atheistic beliefs with more indirect questions estimate that the number of people who don’t believe in a supernatural God may be as high as 26 percent of the population.

“Do I make any decisions based on the possibility that God exists? I don’t,” says Mr. Campolo. “So technically, I guess, I’m agnostic. Practically, I’m an atheist, but I would never call myself either of those things, because those words in our society at this moment connote anti-religious or connote anti-anti-Christian perspectives, and I don’t want to be defined by what I’m not.”

Instead, he prefers to call himself a “humanist.” “But not because it’s a great name, but because it was kind of undefined. And so, like when I was the humanist chaplain at USC [in Los Angeles], the ‘humanists’ ended up being people who are committed to pursuing love as a way of life and who eat dinner with Bart on Sunday nights.”

As the number of “nones” and nonbelievers grow, there are signs that some of the antipathy Americans have had toward atheists have begun to thaw, recent surveys suggest.


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Last Monday, Portland, Oregon, became the second city in the U.S. to extend civil rights protections to atheists, agnostics, and other “non-religious” people, after Madison, Wisconsin, did the same in 2015. Nearly a third of the population in Oregon describe themselves as “nones” – the largest single cohort in the state, followed by evangelical Protestants, who make up 29 percent, and Catholics, who make up 12 percent, according to Pew.

As many critics note, the “new atheism” movement is overwhelmingly white and male, and even plagued by a “brazen sexism” and vehement intolerance that makes women and others prefer to distance themselves from the term. And of course, every group has its trolls – eager to cast derision and mockery on people who believe differently than they do.

That said, “I’ve seen plenty of evidence of folks in the nontheist movement moving away from the four-horsemen ‘new atheism,’ and moving away from antagonism toward religion,” says Roy Speckhardt, executive director of the American Humanist Association.

Many nontheists have used terms such as “religious naturalism” or “religious humanism” or “humanistic spirituality” to describe the underlying beliefs that support their ethical and moral convictions without an appeal to divine revelation or a supernatural God.

“Do I believe in a personal God? No,” says Robert Strock, a therapist and counselor who heads The Global Bridge Foundation, a humanitarian group in Santa Monica, California. “Do I feel like humanistic spirituality is including people that do? Absolutely, yes. I feel like I’d be a bigot if I didn’t.”

Not all nontheists, especially those who embrace the identity “atheist,” are comfortable with terms like “religion” or “spirituality,” however. And many see their role as combating the dangers of supernatural beliefs and sectarian ideologies that they see as a major source of human discord and violence.

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“Spirituality is a term that I’m comfortable with, but not all of my colleagues are,” says Ms. Klaeysen, who has a doctorate in pastoral counseling and congregational development.

“How I look at it is, I think of transcendence not as an out-of-body or other worldly experience, but more of, how am I making a real connection, a connection not outside myself, but kind of a ‘super connection’ if you will, whether it is with another human, or a community, or with music, art, nature – a sense that I’m fully aware of myself in nature or as part of the universe.”

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Re: Atheist/Humanist Values/Doctrine lists

#22 Post by coffee » December 9th, 2019, 9:43 am

A shorter version of the above post.



Americans have long been uneasy with those who say they don’t believe in God. As a whole, in fact, Americans have consistently reported that they view atheists with more suspicion than any other group.

A decade ago, the public face of atheism was dominated by a cadre of aggressive and media-savvy thinkers who were cheekily dubbed “the four horseman” – including Richard Dawkins and the late Christopher Hitchens – who often ridiculed traditional faith as “childish.”

But as the number of atheists and religious “nones” continues to rise, they are in fact wildly diverse, observers say, and many who say they don’t believe in God also consider themselves spiritual, and in some cases, even religious.

Bart Campolo, the humanist chaplain at the University of Cincinnati in Ohio, says the challenge now is to try to build communities for Americans who don’t believe in God, rooted in humility and compassion. “We should pursue lovingkindness not because God commands it, or because we’ll go to heaven if we do it, but rather, we should pursue lovingkindness because it’s the most sensible way of trying to flourish as a human being.”

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Re: Atheist/Humanist Values/Doctrine lists

#23 Post by coffee » December 31st, 2019, 12:17 am

What is the meaning of life answer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meaning_of_life

https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... QNdUlK5--Q


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"What is the meaning of life?" is a question many people ask themselves at some point during their lives, most in the context "What is the purpose of life?".[10] Some popular answers include:
To realize one's potential and ideals

To chase dreams.[143]
To live one's dreams.[144]
To spend it for something that will outlast it.[145]
To matter: to count, to stand for something, to have made some difference that you lived at all.[145]
To expand one's potential in life.[144]
To become the person you've always wanted to be.[146]
To become the best version of yourself.[147]
To seek happiness[148][149] and flourish.[3]
To be a true authentic human being.[150]
To be able to put the whole of oneself into one's feelings, one's work, one's beliefs.[145]
To follow or submit to our destiny.[151][152][153]
To achieve eudaimonia,[154] a flourishing of human spirit.

To achieve biological perfection

To survive,[155] that is, to live as long as possible,[156] including pursuit of immortality (through scientific means).[157]
To live forever[157] or die trying.[158]
Existence: to keep existing, to keep being, to preserve one's own existence; not to cease to be, not to disappear; existence solely relying on itself; to overcome threats to one's existence; existential and ontological self-sufficiency.[citation needed]
To adapt. Often to improve one's chances of success in another purpose; sometimes, as a purpose in itself (adapting to adapt).
To evolve.[159]
To replicate, to reproduce.[143] "The 'dream' of every cell is to become two cells."[160][161][162][163]

To seek wisdom and knowledge

To expand one's perception of the world.[144]
To follow the clues and walk out the exit.[164]
To learn as many things as possible in life.[165]
To know as much as possible about as many things as possible.[166]
To seek wisdom and knowledge and to tame the mind, as to avoid suffering caused by ignorance and find happiness.[167]
To face our fears and accept the lessons life offers us.[151]
To find the meaning or purpose of life.[168][169]
To find a reason to live.[170]
To resolve the imbalance of the mind by understanding the nature of reality.[171]

To do good, to do the right thing

To leave the world as a better place than you found it.[143]
To do your best to leave every situation better than you found it.[143]
To benefit others.[6]
To give more than you take.[143]
To end suffering.[172][173][174]
To create equality.[175][176][177]
To challenge oppression.[178]
To distribute wealth.[179][180]
To be generous.[181][182]
To contribute to the well-being and spirit of others.[183][184]
To help others,[3][182] to help one another.[185]
To take every chance to help another while on your journey here.[143]
To be creative and innovative.[183]
To forgive.[143]
To accept and forgive human flaws.[186][187]
To be emotionally sincere.[145]
To be responsible.[145]
To be honorable.[145]
To seek peace.[145]

Dante and Beatrice see God as a point of light surrounded by angels; from Gustave Doré's illustrations for the Divine Comedy

Meanings relating to religion

To reach the highest heaven and be at the heart of the Divine.[188]
To have a pure soul and experience God.[145]
To understand the mystery of God.[151]
To know or attain union with God.[189][190]
To know oneself, know others, and know the will of heaven.[191]
To love something bigger, greater, and beyond ourselves, something we did not create or have the power to create, something intangible and made holy by our very belief in it.[143]
To love God[189] and all of his creations.[192]
To glorify God by enjoying him forever.[193]
To spread your religion and share it with others.[194] (Matthew 28:18-20)
To act justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God.[195]
To be fruitful and multiply.[196] (Genesis 1:28)
To obtain freedom. (Romans 8:20-21)
To fill the Earth and subdue it.[196] (Genesis 1:28)
To serve humankind,[197] to prepare to meet[198] and become more like God,[199][200][201][202] to choose good over evil,[203] and have joy.[204][205]
[He] [God] who created death and life to test you [as to] who is best in deed and He is Exalted in Might, the Forgiving. (Quran 67:2)
To worship God and enter heaven in afterlife.[206]

To love, to feel, to enjoy the act of living

To love more.[143]
To love those who mean the most. Every life you touch will touch you back.[143]
To treasure every enjoyable sensation one has.[143]
To seek beauty in all its forms.[143]
To have fun or enjoy life.[151][183]
To seek pleasure[145] and avoid pain.[207]
To be compassionate.[145]
To be moved by the tears and pain of others, and try to help them out of love and compassion.[143]
To love others as best we possibly can.[143]
To eat, drink, and be merry.[208]

To have power, to be better

To strive for power[70] and superiority.[207]
To rule the world.[152]
To know and master the world.[194][209]
To know and master nature.[210]

Life has no meaning

Life or human existence has no real meaning or purpose because human existence occurred out of a random chance in nature, and anything that exists by chance has no intended purpose.[171]
Life has no meaning, but as humans we try to associate a meaning or purpose so we can justify our existence.[143]
There is no point in life, and that is exactly what makes it so special.[143]

One should not seek to know and understand the meaning of life

The answer to the meaning of life is too profound to be known and understood.[171]
You will never live if you are looking for the meaning of life.[143]
The meaning of life is to forget about the search for the meaning of life.[143]
Ultimately, a person should not ask what the meaning of their life is, but rather must recognize that it is they themselves who are asked. In a word, each person is questioned by life; and they can only answer to life by answering for their own life; to life they can only respond by being responsible.[211]

Antinatalism

Antinatalism is a philosophy which posits that people will always experience pain or harm which outweighs any pleasure.[212] Life is bad and therefore not coming into existence means people will not experience pain, nor will they be disadvantaged by not experiencing pleasure as they do not exist.[212] This is described as the asymmetry of pleasure and pain.[212]

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Re: Atheist/Humanist Values/Doctrine lists

#24 Post by coffee » January 20th, 2020, 10:46 am

I stick this link here so that I know where to find it next time.

https://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2004/ ... of-values/


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#26 Post by coffee » April 4th, 2020, 5:14 pm

I stick this link here so that I know where to find it next time.

https://famleeoffour.com/wp-content/upl ... List-1.pdf

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#27 Post by coffee » April 20th, 2020, 10:09 pm

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexam ... versities/


Yeah, but Christianity Built Universities!


April 20, 2020 by Bob Seidensticker

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Atheist whiners like me are quick to point out the problems that religion causes within society—crimes become righteous acts when done in the name of God, believers attack the boundary between church and state, a believer who thinks that beliefs can be justified through faith rather than evidence opens their mind to parasitic mental baggage, and so on.

But let’s be fair. Christians will point out that their religion created universities and hospitals. Setting aside the negatives about religion, surely these institutions are a substantial addition to the Christian side of the ledger.

Now consider the pro-social motivations within Christianity versus those within the secular community. British author Malcolm Muggeridge said:

I’ve spent a number of years in India and Africa where I found much righteous endeavour undertaken by Christians of all denominations; but I never, as it happens, came across a hospital or orphanage run by the Fabian Society [a British socialist organization], or a humanist leper colony.

Original universities

We’ll look at universities in this post and hospitals next time.

Let’s consider the challenge that we have Christianity to thank for creating universities and nurturing them as they developed into the centers of education and research that they are today.

The oldest continuously operating university is the University of Bologna, Italy (1088), followed by universities at Oxford, England (1096), Salamanca, Spain (1134), and Cambridge, England (1209). Though there were institutions of higher learning in other old civilizations such as Greece, Byzantium, China, India, and the Muslim world, Wikipedia’s list excludes them because they are sufficiently different to make comparisons difficult, and evidence suggests that the seed that eventually grew into the modern university was the medieval European version, not similar institutions from other cultures.

Universities at Oxford and Paris began with the disciplines of theology, law, medicine, and the liberal arts. To see their unabashedly Christian environment, though, consider an example from several centuries later.
Cambridge in the time of Newton

The story of Isaac Newton illustrates how dissimilar medieval universities were from modern universities. Both Oxford and Cambridge in the seventeenth century required its fellows to be ordained Anglican priests. Newton was a Christian, but he didn’t accept the Trinity. This made him a heretic, which was no minor matter at that time. Only an exemption granted by the king in 1675 allowed Newton to accept the Lucasian chair at Cambridge without taking holy orders. Demanding that physics professors also be priests highlights the difference with universities today.

Don’t imagine that Christianity was a burden for Newton, however. Though he revolutionized science and has been called history’s greatest physicist (or even scientist), Newton devoted more time on theology than science and wrote more than two million words about religion. His Christian beliefs are proudly cited by many apologists.

What then was the result of all that theological work from such a great mind? Nothing. He might’ve spent that time playing solitaire for what it taught him about reality and the good it did for Humanity.

Christians also point to other important Christian scientists from the Renaissance through the Enlightenment and into the Industrial Revolution, but they can’t show that these scientists’ religious beliefs drove their discoveries in any way. As far as science goes, they were just conforming to their environment (like drinking wine, wearing clothes, or anything else that Europeans at the time did).
Early American universities

Harvard (1636) was the first university in the United States. It was founded by Christians to train clergy. Most of the first universities in this country were founded the same way.

106 of the first 108 colleges were started on the Christian faith. By the close of 1860 there were 246 colleges in America. Seventeen of these were state institutions; almost every other one was founded by Christian denominations or by individuals who avowed a religious purpose.

The universities that Christians point to with pride are today guided with a very different principle than this declaration by Rev. Jonathan Dickinson, the first president of Princeton: “Cursed be all that learning that is contrary to the cross of Christ.” Christian universities with a Christian purpose are no gift to humanity, and today’s prestigious universities have turned their back on their original focus of creating clergy.

Modern universities

Changed though modern universities are, we can get a glimpse at the environment in medieval universities by looking at modern Christian colleges. Just like Cambridge in Newton’s day, Biola University demands that each undergraduate student “be a believer in the Christian faith (the applicant’s statement of faith will be articulated in the personal essay section of the application).” The PhD application for one discipline at Liberty University asks for church membership, an essay documenting the applicant’s “personal salvation experience,” and agreement with the school’s doctrinal statement. These universities aren’t interested in honest inquiry if they must create a safe space that protects their pre-determined conclusions.

Here is rule #2 from Harvard College’s original student rulebook:

Let every Student be plainly instructed, and earnestly pressed to consider well, the maine end of his life and studies is, to know God and Jesus Christ which is eternal life (John 17:3) and therefore to lay Christ in the bottome, as the only foundation of all sound knowledge and Learning. And seeing the Lord only giveth wisedome, Let every one seriously set himself by prayer in secret to seeke it of him (Prov. 2:3).

That is the house that Christianity built. It wasn’t Christianity but secular thinking that created the modern university that we’re proud of.

To be continued with a discussion of Christianity’s impact on hospitals.


But since the devil’s bride, Reason, that pretty whore,
comes in and thinks she’s wise,
and what she says, what she thinks, is from the Holy Spirit,
who can help us, then?
Not judges, not doctors, no king or emperor,
because [reason] is the Devil’s greatest whore.
— Martin Luther

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(This is an update of a post that originally appeared 1/22/16.)

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Re: Atheist/Humanist Values/Doctrine lists

#28 Post by Alan H » April 20th, 2020, 11:51 pm

Yes, religions had the power, the control and the money.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?


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#30 Post by coffee » June 17th, 2020, 11:49 am

This thread(the above) concern with practical humanism.
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The following website concern theretical humanism.
https://understandinghumanism.org.uk/

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So the two can go hand in hand together well in my opinion.

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#31 Post by coffee » June 20th, 2020, 5:45 pm

This could be useful for some people.

Humanists Victoria Code of Conduct

https://vichumanist.org.au/about/humani ... f-conduct/

or this

https://vichumanist.org.au/wp-content/u ... _V1.01.pdf

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