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Defenceless Britain

...on serious topics that don't fit anywhere else at present.
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Zeff
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Defenceless Britain

#1 Postby Zeff » March 14th, 2018, 9:37 am

There was Litvinenko...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko
Now the Skripals and other suspicious murders...
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/12/europe/theresa-may-russia-spy-poisoning-intl/index.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/russia-uk-deaths-british-police-investigation-state-involvement-putin-latest-news-a8253336.html

What does Farage say recently? He urges Teresa May to, quote, "stand strong like Russia" !!
And he calls others rude and bullying...
http://nortonsafe.search.ask.com/search?chn=32430&ctype=videos&doi=2017-04-12&geo=GB&guid=650705A0-27DA-49DA-9BF6-8C98C1208B62&locale=en_GB&o=APN11908&p2=%5EET%5Ecd20gb%5E&page=1&prt=NSBU&q=farage+video+stand+strong+like+russia&tpr=sbt&ver=22.9.1.12&vidOrd=1&vidId=rMnipa5aMvM

Farage must be one of the rudest, dimmest and least helpful politicians ever. That he is so effective says much about Britain today.

Teresa May says she will "retaliate" against Russia. Boris Johnson says the UK has "support" from other countries. Verbal and moral support, no doubt. From what I've read there's little to nothing the UK can do that won't hurt us as much as Russia and support won't include much practical help.

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Re: Defenceless Britain

#2 Postby Tetenterre » March 14th, 2018, 11:05 am

I've seen it written that the single act that would inconvenience Russia the most would be to cancel Brexit.
Steve

Quantum Theory: The branch of science with which people who know absolutely sod all about quantum theory can explain anything.

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Re: Defenceless Britain

#3 Postby Alan H » March 14th, 2018, 11:17 am

Tetenterre wrote:I've seen it written that the single act that would inconvenience Russia the most would be to cancel Brexit.
:laughter:

What the Tories really need is a war to distract from the catastrophe that is Brexit.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: Defenceless Britain

#4 Postby animist » March 14th, 2018, 11:25 am

Tetenterre wrote:I've seen it written that the single act that would inconvenience Russia the most would be to cancel Brexit.
:laughter:

could we target Putin with a drone strike? Not a really serious suggestion!

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Re: Defenceless Britain

#5 Postby animist » March 16th, 2018, 10:04 am

more serious suggestion. Why the hell is Britain continuing to participate in the World Cup if we feel so strongly about Putin's Russia? I have just signed a petition that we drop out and put some pressure on prominent footballers to add their weight to the protest

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Re: Defenceless Britain

#6 Postby Alan H » March 16th, 2018, 10:22 am

animist wrote:more serious suggestion. Why the hell is Britain continuing to participate in the World Cup if we feel so strongly about Putin's Russia? I have just signed a petition that we drop out and put some pressure on prominent footballers to add their weight to the protest
A fair guess would be that it's down to money. It always is.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: Defenceless Britain

#7 Postby animist » March 16th, 2018, 5:00 pm

another brilliant piece by Ian Dunt: http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/03 ... l-down-the

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Re: Defenceless Britain

#8 Postby animist » March 21st, 2018, 10:44 am


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Nick
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Re: Defenceless Britain

#9 Postby Nick » March 21st, 2018, 11:47 am

animist wrote:another brilliant piece by Ian Dunt: http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/03 ... l-down-the

Not sure I'd call it brilliant, but rather better than I was expecting from Ian Dunt!

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Re: Defenceless Britain

#10 Postby Nick » March 21st, 2018, 11:48 am

animist wrote:http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2018/03/19/no-british-patriot-should-trade-with-putin


So, you've linked to this article. What do you make of it? :)

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Re: Defenceless Britain

#11 Postby animist » March 21st, 2018, 3:18 pm

Nick wrote:
animist wrote:http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2018/03/19/no-british-patriot-should-trade-with-putin


So, you've linked to this article. What do you make of it? :)
tempting to support it, about as far as I would go. Lots of counter-arguments of the tu quoque kind, and would it make any dent? We really should be boycotting the World Cup IMO


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