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#981 Post by coffee » September 8th, 2018, 5:21 pm

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Swedish Democrat candidate, Robert Linden slams the Brussels elite, placing blame for "mismanagement" of the migrant crisis firmly at their door: "I would be surprised if we don’t reach at least 30% of votes [in Sunday's election]."
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“We are told that membership of the European Union is vital to the survival of the British economy. But there is surprisingly little evidence for that. Economies seem to grow faster outside the EU.”

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“This is a once in a lifetime vote”

If Remain had won, democracy wouldn’t have been allowed to change its mind in my lifetime.

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#982 Post by Alan H » September 8th, 2018, 5:43 pm

Keep these up, coffee. They provide endless hours of amusement. Meanwhile, Brexiteers are destroying our future and that of our children.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#983 Post by Alan H » September 8th, 2018, 6:24 pm

Coffee: please read this. It's not by some Remoaner or some left-wing commie bastard. It's by Campbell Robb, Chief Executive of the independent Joseph Rowntree Foundation that works to solve poverty in the UK: Brexit is going to make those in poverty poorer – the government must act now
The Brexit vote, and what drove it in 2016, has been discussed extensively, and that won’t stop in March 2019. But we do know that many people on low incomes voted to leave, feeling locked out of opportunities and left behind.

However, our latest analysis suggests that many of those people could face an impossible situation where they have less choice and control – even over their own lives – due to the possibility of being swept into poverty after the UK leaves the EU.

Living costs for low-income households are estimated to increase by £480 per year in a ‘No Deal’ scenario. These costs appear to rise by smaller amounts under the other scenarios we modelled.

In addition to low pay, high housing costs and freezes and cuts to benefits and tax credits, Brexit could see more and more families become locked in poverty.
Do they deserve to be poorer, coffee? Do their children? Is that what we all voted for?
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#984 Post by Alan H » September 8th, 2018, 7:45 pm

The savage Brexit letter that doesn't pull any punches
During the past two and a half years, the Brexit vote has driven a wedge through British society. The divide has been felt in families across the nation. Many dinner tables around the UK have noted generational differences in opinion.

With a no-deal scenario looking ever more likely, this week a British daughter has had enough and has written this astonishing letter to her mother about Brexit. It doesn’t pull any punches and she has allowed me to share it here
Is it all worth it, coffee?
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#985 Post by Alan H » September 8th, 2018, 8:18 pm

Oh this is lovely! Eurosceptics shelve their rival Brexit blueprint
The group is instead planning a programme of events, starting with a speech on Wednesday by David Davis, the former Brexit secretary.

Mr Davis is expected to criticise the government’s approach to the Northern Irish backstop and will suggest that EU officials could be allowed in UK ports to inspect goods travelling to…
As always, Davies might criticise, but he will have nothing constructive and practical to say. He's an idiot floundering is a vast sea of Brexit idiots.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#986 Post by coffee » September 9th, 2018, 11:48 am

Theresa May gambles on disaffected Labour moderates to get Chequers Brexit plan through Parliament: Brexit News for Sunday 9th September

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#987 Post by coffee » September 9th, 2018, 12:05 pm

'Swexit' on agenda as Swedish nationalists call for EU divorce ahead of election

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Italy could still leave EU, senior government adviser says

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‘Fury over EU’s bullying of Britain over Brexit will trigger Sweden’s own EU exit’

A SWEDISH politician has ripped into the European Union claiming that the Brussels-produced deadlock over Brexit makes a referendum on Sweden's departure increasingly likely.

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#988 Post by Alan H » September 9th, 2018, 12:06 pm

coffee wrote:Theresa May gambles on disaffected Labour moderates to get Chequers Brexit plan through Parliament: Brexit News for Sunday 9th September

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... september/
Oh, so it's such a great deal for the UK that'll deliver new-found prosperity for generations to come that she needs support from the so-called Opposition and can't even persuade her own party? Why's that, do you think?
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#989 Post by Alan H » September 9th, 2018, 12:07 pm

How many more barrels are there left that the idiots at Brexitcentral can scrape the bottoms of?
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#990 Post by Alan H » September 9th, 2018, 12:53 pm

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#991 Post by coffee » September 9th, 2018, 5:42 pm

Get Britain Out

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Denmark should also leave the EU.

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The EU's bullying tactics throughout the negotiations could encourage more Swedes to fight their own exit.

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New anti-EU political party @IrexitFreedom launched today in Dublin. Spokesperson @HermannKelly: "The Irexit Freedom party stands for taking back control of Irish affairs. Like Brexit, we want to take back control of our money, our laws and our borders."

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#992 Post by Alan H » September 9th, 2018, 6:29 pm

<yawn> same old ignorant nonsense about the EU eh coffee?
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#993 Post by coffee » September 9th, 2018, 8:34 pm

Swedish election: Nationalists 'make gains' in early exit polls

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45466174

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#994 Post by coffee » September 10th, 2018, 9:47 am

EU ready to give Michel Barnier new mandate to close Brexit deal: Brexit News for Monday 10th September

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Today's News:
- EU ready to give Barnier new mandate to close Brexit deal
- @SteveBakerHW says Theresa May ‘risks catastrophic split’ if she sticks to Chequers plan
- @Jacob_Rees_Mogg claims Britain would get £80 billion boost from a no-deal Brexit


EU ready to give Michel Barnier new mandate to close Brexit deal: Brexit News for Monday 10th September

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#995 Post by coffee » September 10th, 2018, 10:18 am

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Good news - UK enjoys fastest economic growth in almost a year. GDP in the 3mths to July was 0.6% higher than in the previous 3mth period, gathering pace from 0.4% recorded in the 3mths to June. Despite...

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#996 Post by Alan H » September 10th, 2018, 12:29 pm

Hey! Coffee! If the Disgraced Former Defence Secretary Dr Liam Fox (to give him his full title) is pulling back from all those promises that were made to us, where did they go? Where does that leave us? Or is he lying again?

I can’t promise life will be rosy after Brexit, says Liam Fox
Leaving the European Union would not guarantee a rosy economic future for the UK, the international trade secretary Liam Fox has admitted.

In a frank assessment of Britain’s prospects Dr Fox said that fellow Brexiteers needed to beware of succumbing to “irrational positivity”.

He said that Brexit offered opportunities but the UK would still be subjected to “buffeting pressures in the global economy” that the government would not be able to control.

Dr Fox’s remarks will be seen as a rebuke to Boris Johnson, the former foreign secretary, who has talked repeatedly of a “glorious vision” for the future of a Britain free from interference from Brussels.

They also, however, reflect concerns among the Conservative right that post-Brexit Britain will be seeking economic growth from free-trade deals at a time when the world is becoming more protectionist.

Dr Fox made his comments in an interview podcast for The Truth Trade website. In it he warned supporters of Brexit not to fall into the trap of those who want Britain to stay in the European Union by overstating the direct effects of the decision to leave.

“We have got to be rational and say that everything will not be wonderful because we are leaving the European Union,” he said. “We have to say there are great opportunities that come from Brexit but that is not a guarantee that everything is going to be rosy on the other side.

“Let’s not have an irrational positivity, but look at the opportunities and look in a balanced way at the pluses we can control. We will be subjected to the same global pressures as before.”

In the interview Dr Fox, who was one of the six Brexiteer cabinet ministers who signed up to Theresa May’s Chequers plan, also made clear that his support for the proposals was conditional and hinted that the deal could ultimately be scaled back to a simple Canadian-style free-trade agreement supported by other Brexiteers.

“We’ll see what happens,” he said. “A lot of the Chequers [deal] is very challenging to the European Union.

“They have said they will offer Britain a much better deal than any other country but they will not offer a deal that compromises their current institutional relationships. We have to wait and see what that means.

“This is a negotiation. We will negotiate this and then we will determine whether we think this is a good deal or not a good deal for Britain.”

Dr Fox also explicitly criticised the former Leave campaign, led by Mr Johnson, for promising an extra £350 million a week for the NHS, although he acknowledged that this might have helped to sway voters.

“I was never particularly comfortable with the numbers,” he said. “I would have preferred us to make the point more generally. But the point was correct that in leaving the European Union we would have more money to spend on the things that matter to voters.”

Nicky Morgan, the Conservative chairwoman of the Treasury select committee, praised Dr Fox for being a realist. “The whole debate needs to be less black and white,” she said.

The Labour MP Chris Leslie, who is supporting the campaign for a second referendum, said it appeared that Dr Fox was “disagreeing with himself”. “One Liam Fox touts all the supposed benefits of Brexit, like fantasy free-trade deals, while the other admits that leaving the EU is no guarantee of a rosy future,” he said.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#997 Post by animist » September 12th, 2018, 11:52 am

I think you are flogging a dead horse, Alan (not of course that you would ever think of flogging a live one :laughter: ). Nick flounced off when we got fed up with his prevarications; coffee remained, but at least Nick would attempt answers. 198 days to Brexit. When will the sleepers awake?

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#998 Post by Alan H » September 12th, 2018, 12:14 pm

animist wrote:I think you are flogging a dead horse, Alan (not of course that you would ever think of flogging a live one :laughter: ). Nick flounced off when we got fed up with his prevarications; coffee remained, but at least Nick would attempt answers. 198 days to Brexit. When will the sleepers awake?
They need to awake and actually smell the coffee...
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#999 Post by animist » September 12th, 2018, 1:21 pm

Alan H wrote:
animist wrote:I think you are flogging a dead horse, Alan (not of course that you would ever think of flogging a live one :laughter: ). Nick flounced off when we got fed up with his prevarications; coffee remained, but at least Nick would attempt answers. 198 days to Brexit. When will the sleepers awake?
They need to awake and actually smell the coffee...
:laughter:

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#1000 Post by Alan H » September 12th, 2018, 1:39 pm

Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1001 Post by Alan H » September 12th, 2018, 4:56 pm

Anyone any idea why the Tories need to have a COBRA meeting about the implications of Brexit? Coffee? Did we vote for this?

Disaster looms: Cobra meet over no-deal Brexit
It has been claimed that secret meetings of the Cobra emergency committee are being held to prepare for the UK crashing out of the EU.

Usually Cobra – which stands for Cabinet Office Briefing Room A, where the group meets – is only convened in response to events that threaten national security like natural disasters or terrorist attacks.

Labour’s Anna McMorrin said the Cabinet Office was preparing for the “very real threat” of no deal by undertaking civil contingency planning and holding the meetings.

De facto deputy prime minister David Lidington did not deny the claim, saying it was right that the civil contingency secretariat plays an “active part in contingency planning for all eventualities”.

Ms McMorrin (Cardiff North) asked the Cabinet Office minister during departmental questions in the Commons: “We know the Cabinet Office is preparing for the very real threat that is no deal, with secret Cobra meetings and civil contingency planning.

“Business leaders are warning of the disaster of a no deal or a bad deal. Isn’t it about time we put this decision, the biggest facing our generation, back to the people for a people’s vote?”
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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