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#1161 Postby coffee » November 3rd, 2018, 9:22 am

Latest post of the previous page:

DUP furious at plan to leave Northern Ireland a 'rule taker' from EU: Brexit News for Saturday 3 November

TODAY'S HEADLINES

DUP furious with May's Northern Ireland plan

Irish say Brexit deal can be agreed within weeks

France's Irish deal could leave UK lorries queueing

Downing Street rebuked for customs claim


https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -november/

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#1162 Postby Alan H » November 3rd, 2018, 11:19 am

coffee wrote:DUP furious at plan to leave Northern Ireland a 'rule taker' from EU


Whi could have guessed?

:hilarity: :pointlaugh: :laughter:
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1163 Postby coffee » November 3rd, 2018, 4:46 pm

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Next time you hear @peoplesvote_uk losers bleating about "not knowing what we voted for" consider this quote by the former EU Commission President.

The EU constitution was voted down by FR & NL voters then rebranded the Lisbon treaty and rejected by Irish who gave in the 2nd time.

https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/sta ... 9780324352

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Why the UK economy should grow faster in the short term if there is no Brexit deal - Andrew Lilico

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#1164 Postby Alan H » November 3rd, 2018, 5:07 pm

coffee wrote:Next time you hear @peoplesvote_uk losers bleating about "not knowing what we voted for" consider this quote by the former EU Commission President.

The EU constitution was voted down by FR & NL voters then rebranded the Lisbon treaty and rejected by Irish who gave in the 2nd time.

That's called democracy, coffee. Democracy. People get to change their mind and instruct their Government accordingly. Don't you approve of democracy? Or do you disapprove of it when it suits your ideology?
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1165 Postby animist » November 4th, 2018, 1:30 pm

coffee wrote:
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Why the UK economy should grow faster in the short term if there is no Brexit deal - Andrew Lilico

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quite interesting. It's true that Britain imports more from the EU27 than we export, and that both sides would initially, under WTO rules, have to impose tariffs on each other as both (pre-Brexit) currently do on the rest of the world. So, assuming that the tariffs cut similarly both ways, imports would fall more than exports, helping the BOP. What I find dubious is that - given that this is supposed to be short-term - Lilico assumes that UK firms could immediately substitute for the imports. What in fact would happen would be higher prices facing British consumers, whether private sector or manufacturers using imported materials - not a happy prospect, surely whatever the BOP might be

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#1166 Postby coffee » November 4th, 2018, 6:58 pm

Sunday Times reveals ‘Theresa May’s secret Brexit deal’: Brexit News for Sunday 4 November

TODAY'S HEADLINES

Sunday Times reveals ‘Theresa May’s secret Brexit deal’

Deal would reportedly mean mean all of UK staying in customs union

Downing Street dismiss report as 'speculation'

Attorney General Geoffrey Cox joins Brexit war cabinet

Irish Prime Minister says Brexit is fraying relations between Ireland and Britain


https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -november/

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#1167 Postby coffee » November 4th, 2018, 7:10 pm

French far-right overtakes Macron in EU parliament election poll

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... tion-poll/

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#1168 Postby Alan H » November 4th, 2018, 7:15 pm

coffee wrote:French far-right overtakes Macron in EU parliament election poll

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... tion-poll/

Nasty racists.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1169 Postby coffee » November 5th, 2018, 9:35 am

Theresa May's chances of striking Irish border deal '50-50', say EU officials...: Brexit News for Monday 5 November

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -november/

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#1170 Postby Alan H » November 5th, 2018, 11:11 am

coffee wrote:Theresa May's chances of striking Irish border deal '50-50', say EU officials...: Brexit News for Monday 5 November

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -november/

The problem is, coffee, that deal cannot be as good as the one we already have (as we were promised), can it? If if it's not as good, why the fuck is she forcing us to do it?
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1171 Postby coffee » November 5th, 2018, 5:20 pm

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POLL: Brits want to take back control.

-60% want border controls over EU links
-65% want Britain to set its own laws over EU trade

More uncomfortable reading for hardcore Remoaners!

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Italy’s Lega, led by @matteosalvinimi, surged from 17% in March to 35% now.

Turns out being pro-borders and telling Brussels to do one is incredibly popular. Shocked!

https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/stat ... 8969182208

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Ahead of the upcoming European elections in France, patriot Marine Le Pen has surged past her globalist opponent Emmanuel Macron. Voters want leaders who will do the right thing and put their own people first!

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And as I will never tire of pointing out, the millions of dollars spent on Obama’s trip to the UK to intervene in the Referendum was a notional donation (donation in kind) and it was not counted by the Electoral Commission. It should be.

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One rule for Remain donors a different rule Leave donors.

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Brilliant stuff from @RaheemKassam on Carole Codswallop, OpenDemocracy, and anti-Brexit globalist moneyman George Soros... "there is real evidence of the Open Society Foundations pouring foreign money into the United Kingdom"

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Perhaps @AndrewMarr9 needs to pull the Electoral Commission onto the Marr Show after @Arron_banks and question them on who they are, how they were appointed and how biased they are? @BBCPolitics

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The UK continues to attract foreign investment. #DespiteBrexit

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#1172 Postby coffee » November 5th, 2018, 5:28 pm

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Investors want to put money and over 70,000 jobs into the UK because they know we will prosper from leaving the EU, says @LiamFox

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#1173 Postby Alan H » November 5th, 2018, 5:59 pm

People's Vote briefing:
It’s still not clear whether the prime minister will clinch a Brexit deal and ram it through her Cabinet. Stories at the weekend that a deal was imminent have been followed by stories today that the talks remain stalled on the so-called Irish backstop, the chances of an agreement are 50/50, and the Cabinet won’t be presented with a fait accompli tomorrow after all.

What is clear is that the deal Theresa May is concocting would be miserable. In fact, it won’t be a trade pact at all. It will be a half-baked deal that merely specifies our divorce terms, costs us at least £50 billion and probably a lot more, and ties us up in knots because of the commitments we will have to make to keep the Irish border open.

No wonder over 70 business leaders - including Martha Lane Fox (founder of Lastminute.com), John Neill (Unipart’s boss) and Paul Myners (former chair of Marks and Spencer) - called at the weekend for a People’s Vote.

In an open letter, they wrote that the “uncertainty over the past two years has already led to a slump in investment, which will make our country poorer” and that the Brexit now on offer will “further depress investment” and this will be “bad for business and bad for working people.” As if on cue, business confidence slumped to the lowest point since the credit crunch according to figures out today.

https://www.peoples-vote.uk/write_this_wrong?e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5_nov_2018&n=10

For business, the key problems are that the political declaration about our future trading relationship with the EU won’t give us good access to our biggest market, won’t be legally binding and will be ambiguous. It will be written in “disappearing ink”, one Cabinet source told the Sunday Times.

The divorce agreement will keep the UK in the EU’s single market and customs union for 21 months after we quit the bloc - without a vote on the rules. But no business can make long-term investments on the basis of only 21 months of certainty.

As of April 1 next year – yes, the first working day after we are supposed to leave the EU is April Fools’ Day – firms will be staring at a bewildering array of further cliff edges, possible extensions to the transition, Irish “backstops” and “backstops to backstops”. The rules under which business operates could change more than once – and we’ll no longer have any say over them.

There will be no clarity at all about the final destination – except that it will be worse than our current deal in the EU. Meanwhile, the different parliamentary factions will continue to fight over who should be in charge and where the country should be going. The real trade negotiations will drag on for years, probably at least five.

Business for a People’s Vote will be launched on Thursday with a panel discussion of business leaders who will talk through why they think such a “blindfold Brexit” will be bad for business and jobs and why a People's Vote is the best option.
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WATCH: A surprising admission from Arron Banks when questioned by the BBC’s Andrew Marr on how he would vote if he had his time again in an EU referendum (full interview transcript here).

https://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=YqgukYA3Mrlri-dqG7I8Tlxvm6p4lxqougjzLnLKuAxzLipRxtsPYhyTpzPxDrp5dh4yctA5HL3Nj0l-eo9BOQ&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5_nov_2018&n=13

Lawyers for a People’s Vote

More than 1,500 lawyers have backed a People’s Vote, in a letter to Theresa May (published here in the Guardian). They write that a “People’s Vote is the most credible and democratic way to ensure the legitimacy of a decision that will profoundly impact generations to come”.

The lawyers, who include Labour peer Helena Kennedy QC, former court of appeal judge Konrad Schiemann, and David Edward, a former judge at the court of justice of the European Communities, argue “democratic government is not frozen in time”. Just as parliamentary sovereignty means no parliament can bind the next one, the 2016 referendum on EU membership can’t bind us either. A People’s Vote, especially if public opinion has shifted, is therefore thoroughly democratic.

The lawyers - who are part of a new campaign group called Lawyers for a People’s Vote - also say voters are entitled to know what they are voting for. But in 2016 they faced a choice “between a known reality and an unknown alternative”. Once negotiations conclude, that won’t be the case. “Voters should then have a say on whether to exit on those terms – just as a home buyer may reconsider an offer after receiving the survey, and a patient must be informed of risks before consenting to surgery.”

Are you a lawyer who supports a People’s Vote but haven’t signed the letter yet? You still can here.
Video of the day 2


WATCH: In every single Labour constituency the majority of people now support a People’s Vote.

https://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=YqgukYA3Mrlri-dqG7I8Tl9nYkAywFsncf5Ppo34xRCu8vwIcAxglK8sJXIULPKTW_O0jCO3-im32A-fGqhBGQ&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5_nov_2018&n=19

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Voters in all Labour seats back People’s Vote

The public wants a People’s Vote in all 259 Labour-held seats, according to a a new polling study for the People’s Vote campaign. What’s more, Labour voters in those seats back a People’s Vote by an even bigger margin. The Labour seat with the biggest support for a People’s Vote - with 80% - was Islington North, Jeremy Corbyn’s seat.

And this is not all. Voters back a People’s Vote in all Labour’s 100 “battleground” seats. That’s not just a reason for the opposition to give voters the final say on Brexit. It’s a reason for Conservative MPs with small majority to back a People’s Vote too. The 67 with majorities under 5,000 are, without exception, in constituencies where there is a majority in favour of a People’s Vote - and the number of Conservative voters who back a People’s Vote is significantly bigger than their majority at the last election.

This analysis done by YouGov was based on polling of almost 26,000 people, the biggest poll of voters since the election. It is now clear: public opinion has shifted decisively in favour of a People’s Vote - and MPs would do well to take note.
Quote of the Day


“I’m backing the People’s Vote campaign because it’s the right thing to do for our national interest, as well as for businesses and families in Aberconwy. But it’s also really important that Conservatives like me listen to voters rather than just an ideologically-motivated rump of my party.”

Guto Bebb, the Conservative MP for the marginal seat of Aberconwy where 56% of voters overall back a People’s Vote.
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Mary Creagh, Labour MP for Wakefiled, reacts to People's Vote polling in her heavily Leave-voting constituency. Let your MP know you support a People's Vote HERE.

https://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=YqgukYA3Mrlri-dqG7I8TgVkBzCM8j-U88t5my6ol5e4puwPaiWdF7h0Hk-6pZZQ-8AH-8QRkNXZ2ODWeE8cUg&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5_nov_2018&n=25

All Scottish constituencies want a People’s Vote

Every constituency in Scotland also backs a People’s Vote, according to the same vast YouGov study. The poll found that almost two-thirds (64%) of Scottish voters now back the idea of the public being given the final say on the outcome of Brexit negotiations. And if they are given the chance to take part in a People’s Vote, 67% of Scots would vote to stay in the EU.

SNP voters are particularly strong supporters of a People’s Vote. The percentage varies from 81% in Glasgow North to 72% in Berwickshire, Roxburgh & Selkirk.
More Brexit news…


Arron Banks lied to parliament about his Brexit campaign, say whistleblowers (Open Democracy)

Post-Brexit US trade deal risk to food safety, says ex-environment minister (Guardian)

Business schools suffer cut in EU funds as Brexit nears (FT £)

Tony Blair urges MPs to vote down any Brexit deal and push for people's vote (Observer)
Top Brexit commenthttps://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=JVrTuh89eqOCis53dYaEcM1DMZA7h9i4MMbCM8IqjoYVaso6UlhHBpi1R_RhEcYH9YV2Thp7p5mQuAKno4au9gUl02Zbm5zdoZ2Wciw1wPBos4n_iqThK9W-ZlxMAsVA2bxJeVtCfCcZOeAVhmydp1sBGvg8CZ5sOcp5kJL4e30&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5_nov_2018&n=30


Matthew d’Ancona: Arron Banks aside, worry about dark money’s effect on our democracy (Guardian)

Tom McTague: The British and Irish are fighting again(Politico)

Daniel Boffey: Why Brexit is just a sideshow for an EU beset by problems on all sides (Observer)
Looking forward…


Today, Monday 5th November
- US set to reimpose sanctions on Iran
15.30 Former chief whip evidence on status of resolutions of the House of Commons to Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs committee
16.00 Border Planning Group co-chairs evidence on Brexit and UK border to Public Accounts Committee
16.30 Philip Hammond evidence to Treasury committee

Tomorrow, Tuesday 6th November
- Cabinet meets
- Information Commissioner releases report on referendum
- US mid-term elections
PM Parliament rises for recess (until November 12)
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1174 Postby coffee » November 6th, 2018, 9:11 am

A dozen ministers will tell Theresa May to ‘stare down’ the EU on the Irish border issue at today’s Cabinet: Brexit News for Tuesday 6th November

TODAY'S HEADLINES

Up to a dozen ministers will tell Theresa May to ‘stare down’ the EU on the Irish border issue at today’s Cabinet

Dominic Raab reportedly furious over being 'undermined' on the Irish backstop plan

Taoiseach insists the UK could not unilaterally end any backstop arrangement

May expected to warn ministers that time is running out to agree a deal

John McDonnell confirms Labour would oppose a temporary customs
union

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -november/

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#1175 Postby Alan H » November 6th, 2018, 10:37 am

coffee wrote:A dozen ministers will tell Theresa May to ‘stare down’ the EU on the Irish border issue at today’s Cabinet: Brexit News for Tuesday 6th November

[color=#FF0000]Up to a dozen ministers will tell Theresa May to ‘stare down’ the EU on the Irish border issue at today’s Cabinet

:pointlaugh: :pointlaugh: :pointlaugh:

What a bunch of total idiots! As if staring at something will make the problems they caused go away!

These morons created a problem and they cannot even propose one solution that resolves any of it.

In this staring contest, reality does not blink.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1176 Postby animist » November 6th, 2018, 12:35 pm

Alan H wrote:
coffee wrote:A dozen ministers will tell Theresa May to ‘stare down’ the EU on the Irish border issue at today’s Cabinet: Brexit News for Tuesday 6th November

[color=#FF0000]Up to a dozen ministers will tell Theresa May to ‘stare down’ the EU on the Irish border issue at today’s Cabinet

:pointlaugh: :pointlaugh: :pointlaugh:

What a bunch of total idiots! As if staring at something will make the problems they caused go away!

These morons created a problem and they cannot even propose one solution that resolves any of it.

In this staring contest, reality does not blink.
the interesting thing is whether the idiots will risk provoking a General Election by deserting May, assuming she does not stare the EU down as the idiots want. Ian Dunt and a fellow guest on Sky's Press Review also mentioned the reverse situation - that some Labour MPs may defy Corbyn and pass up the chance of an Election because May has departed so far from the Lancaster House declaration and towards a soft Brexit

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#1177 Postby coffee » November 6th, 2018, 5:41 pm

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Poland could be leaving the EU!! Good News!!

https://twitter.com/GetBritainOut/statu ... 0010114049

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It costs £42 to get a Visa for the USA. So why yesterday, did the EU think it rationale to threaten that they impose huge price rises on UK tourists coming to Europe? Just more EU drivel!!!

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Italy, Poland, Hungary... More and more countries are edging closer to the door. It's only a matter of time before the next Member State comes to its senses and votes to take back control of its own affairs!

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REALITY: Over 1,000 EU firms desperate to stay in the City in event of No Deal Brexit.

“Whatever the final outcome of the Brexit negotiations, the UK’s pivotal role as Europe’s financial centre and a gateway to international markets will not change.”

https://twitter.com/WestmonsterUK/statu ... 1489943554

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DUP Chief Whip @J_Donaldson_MP: We're heading for No Deal Brexit.

“Such an outcome will have serious consequences for economy of Irish Republic.

“In addition, UK won’t have to pay a penny more to EU, which means big increase for Dublin.”

https://twitter.com/WestmonsterUK/statu ... 5277723648

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Get Britain Out
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Carole Cadwalladr's codswallop!!

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Despite conceding on almost every single one of her red lines, the bully boys in Brussels are STILL not happy to agree a deal. She's tried, she's failed. Sometimes, Theresa, you need to know when to walk away. #WalkAwayMay

Support us at http://www.leave.eu/get-involved

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John Longworth: The Irish border issue has been manufactured by the EU. It is already a border for VAT, currency, and animal welfare.

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#1178 Postby Alan H » November 6th, 2018, 7:44 pm

coffee wrote:It costs £42 to get a Visa for the USA. So why yesterday, did the EU think it rationale to threaten that they impose huge price rises on UK tourists coming to Europe? Just more EU drivel!!!

That article says it costs £42 for a visa for the US and maybe £52.60 for one for the EU - 'eye-watering', apparently. So, £42 for a visa that covers just one country and a tenner more for a visa that covers 31 countries...

Actually, this website seems to say a US visa costs $160 (about £122), not £42.

The Brexit Bonus...
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1179 Postby Alan H » November 6th, 2018, 7:46 pm

Thanks for all these Brexitmonster links, coffee. It's always amusing to see the breadth and depth of their ignorance and stupidity.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1180 Postby coffee » November 7th, 2018, 11:08 am

Cabinet on standby for Brexit breakthrough but Theresa May says deal 'will not be at any cost': Brexit News for Wednesday 7th November

TODAY'S HEADLINES

Cabinet on standby for Brexit breakthrough but Theresa May says deal 'will not be at any cost'

Michael Gove demanding that the Cabinet be given the full legal advice on the Irish backstop

Michel Barnier dismisses talk of a backstop compromise as he warns 'we are not yet there'

Leaked government plan to sell a Brexit deal emerges

DUP chief whip says UK is headed for no-deal Brexit

Emmanuel Macron calls for creation of a ‘true European army’


https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -november/

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#1181 Postby Alan H » November 7th, 2018, 12:24 pm

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?


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