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#1141 Postby Alan H » October 28th, 2018, 1:33 pm

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You think Brexiters care?
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1142 Postby coffee » October 28th, 2018, 5:36 pm

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This Italian government will not bend to the will of Brussels! Britain will be the first country ever to leave the European Union, however Italy may soon be the first to leave the Euro, a move that would surely mark the beginning of the end for the Brussels' project.

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The latest European Parliament survey claims 68% of EU citizens think their country has benefitted from the project, however break that figure down and you'll find scepticism and division is greater than ever.

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#1143 Postby Alan H » October 28th, 2018, 6:42 pm

Brexiteers are angry not just with Theresa May, but with reality
The brexiteers have become the angry brigade of British politics. Boris Johnson has accused Theresa May of wrapping a suicide vest around Britain. Jacob Rees-Mogg has accused her of being “cowed” by the European Union. And several Tory mps have used anonymous briefings to savage her in the press. “The moment is coming when the knife gets heated, stuck in her front and twisted,” declared one conspirator who is probably more familiar with “The Texas Chainsaw Massacre” than the complete works of Edmund Burke. “She’ll be dead soon.”

The obvious reason for this is that Brexiteers think that Mrs May is wrecking a project that has consumed much of their lives. They are furious that she botched the election of 2017 with a wooden campaign and a shoddy manifesto. This has weakened the government’s hand in dealing not only with recalcitrant Remainers but also with cunning Europeans who are determined to exploit any sign of British weakness. They are equally cross that she is betraying what they consider to be the glorious principles of Lancaster House, the speech in which she laid down various “red lines” about leaving the European Union.

There is a lively debate about why Mrs May has done this. Was she always going to betray them? (She voted to remain before briefly becoming the Boudica of Brexit.) Or was she corrupted by establishment types such as Olly Robbins, the civil servant in charge of the negotiations? Or was she simply ground down by European bureaucrats? That she is a traitor is now taken as a given.

There is also a deeper reason why Brexiteers are so angry. Mrs May represents the reality principle in a political world dominated by fantasy and wish-fulfilment. She didn’t fluff last year’s election only because of a wooden campaign and a botched manifesto. She also fluffed it because a more or less equally divided nation was not willing to give her carte blanche to pursue a hard Brexit. She didn’t blur the red lines of Lancaster House just because she was manipulated and deceived. She blurred them because she is trying to avoid terrible hazards such as a breakdown of trade with the eu or the imposition of a hard border in Ireland. Irving Kristol, the godfather of neo-conservatism, described his tribe as liberals who have been mugged by reality. Brexiteers are Tories who are furious that reality has proved to be more stubborn than they imagined.

They believed that leaving the European Union would be a cake walk. Liam Fox pronounced that “the free-trade agreement that we will have to do with the eu should be one of the easiest in human history.” John Redwood averred that “getting out of the eu can be quick and easy—the uk holds most of the cards in any negotiation.” In fact, leaving the eu is likely to be one of the hardest bureaucratic exercises in post-war history. That is not just because the eu is determined to make it difficult (though it is), but because unravelling 45 years’ worth of trading regulations is inevitably complicated and time-consuming.

The Brexiteers believed that Britain would be able to have all the benefits of the single market while also striking trade deals with the rest of the world—that “there will be no downside to Brexit, only a considerable upside,” as David Davis said, or that Britain would be able to have its cake and eat it, as Mr Johnson pronounced in a phrase that should be carved on his tombstone. But leaving the eu inevitably involves difficult trade-offs. Britain has to choose between maintaining open access to the eu’s single market (which means complying with its rules) or freeing itself to make independent trade deals with the rest of the world (which means losing automatic access to the eu’s market). It may yet have to make an even harder trade-off within its own borders: treating Northern Ireland differently from the rest of the uk, which would eventually tie the province more closely to the Republic of Ireland, or accepting a soft Brexit.

The Brexiteers further believed that the eu would prove to be a pushover. During the referendum campaign, Michael Gove promised that “the day after we vote to leave we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want.” In fact, the eu not only has a lot more cards in its pack than Britain—27 member states, including aces such as France and Germany. It also has more experience, as a regulatory superpower that is used to dealing with other superpowers such as China and America. Some Brexiteers also thought that Britain would be the praetorian guard of a revolution against an ossified global order, represented by Brussels. In fact, the eu has arguably been strengthened rather than weakened by Britain’s imminent departure, while pro-Europeanism has gone from being an exotic taste in Britain to a real force. And Britain’s fellow rebels against the old world order consist of such dubious figures as Matteo Salvini and Donald Trump.

The new moaners

There is an element of vanity in this. Many Brexiteers spent decades in the wilderness, being dismissed as “swivel-eyed loons” by senior Tories. They thought that the referendum result would finally turn them into prophets and heroes. But it is increasingly looking as if the establishment types got it right. Preparations for a no-deal Brexit are becoming increasingly ominous, as the government prepares to charter container ships to import food and drugs, and turn a Kent motorway into a giant lorry park.

There are two very different ways that you can react to reality when it turns out to be harsher than you expected. You can recognise reality for what it is, and try to render it a bit more palatable by hard work and careful thought. Or you can rage against it—and bolster your rage with talk about ideals betrayed and simple solutions denied. Mrs May is no one’s model of a perfect prime minister. But it is to her credit that she has tried hard to grapple with a fiendishly difficult problem. And it is to the discredit of Brexiteers that, rather than helping Mrs May to do her duty, they have decided to rage against her.


Is Theresa May doing a good job for you, coffee?
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1144 Postby coffee » October 29th, 2018, 6:33 pm

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Merkel - Going
Macron - Weak
Salvini - Strong
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The Brussels' political project is falling apart. Their solution? "More Europe!" As Thatcher once said: "No, no, no!" Nation state democracy will always prevail. We are the first country to escape, who will be next?

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Angela Merkel confirms she's stepping down as German Chancellor in 2021.

It's the end of an error.

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TV legend, Chris Tarrant has converted from a Remainer to a "staunch Brexiteer", says he's "appalled" by the behaviour of the "European elite" since the Brexit vote and admits "there’s a point at which we have to control our borders."

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John Longworth: a WTO Brexit would give the Chancellor an extra £39 billion to invest in infrastructure and cut taxes. It would also allow us to eliminate tariffs and reduce the cost of living.

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#1145 Postby Alan H » October 29th, 2018, 9:44 pm

People's Vote briefing:
Philip Hammond intends to use his “last Budget before Brexit” today as a tool to make Theresa May’s miserable deal look more appealing, by pitching it against the chaos of crashing out with no deal at all. But he’s giving people a false dilemma. There’s a third way which would avoid Brexit’s hit to the public finances - a People’s Vote.

Speaking to Sky’s Sophy Ridge on Sunday, Hammond said that if the UK were to leave the EU without a deal, the government would “need to take a different approach to the future of Britain’s economy and frankly we’d need to have a new budget that set out a different strategy for the future”.

https://www.peoples-vote.uk/write_this_wrong?e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=29_oct_2018&n=6

While the newspapers - including the FT, Telegraph and Times - interpret this as a simple threat of “no deal, no end to austerity”, Hammond wasn’t actually clear about what his “different strategy” would be. Higher taxes, less public spending, or more borrowing? All are possibilities, though none would be pleasant for a Conservative government which has pinned its legacy on deficit reduction but is now facing an electoral backlash from years of austerity.

Hammond was also unclear what kind of UK economy would emerge from no deal. His comments resurrected the spectre of slashing protections - for the environment, welfare and workforce - to create a finance-sector-driven “Singapore on Thames” to compete with our EU neighbours. Labour’s John McDonnell was quick to slam this prospect in a separate interview with Sky.

The truth is the Chancellor was unable even to claim we'd be better off with May's Chequers car crash, never mind the disaster of a no-deal Brexit: he simply tried to dodge the question when asked by Marr. The Treasury’s own figures, leaked earlier this year, show that every form of Brexit will damage the public finances. Indeed, the prime minister’s Chequers proposal will throw up barriers to trade with our larger trade partner for vast swathes of our economy including services. The result will be felt in lost growth and less revenue for public services. The economy has already lost £500m a week in lost growth since June 2016 - this will be just the start if the government gets its Brexit deal over the line.

Back in 2016 people did not vote for emergency economic policies and a slash-and-burn approach to social protections. But they didn’t vote for Theresa May’s miserable Brexit either, where we would be turned into a rule-taker and also damage our economy and public finances. There is no Brexit dividend. Happily there will be alternative when the negotiations are over: a People’s Vote.
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WATCH: Thank you for marching with us. Now it's time to email your MP and Write This Wrong. Please take action today, it won’t take you long.

https://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=YqgukYA3Mrlri-dqG7I8Tl9nYkAywFsncf5Ppo34xRB5d4WTDcwUpf36gyQ_xBCn2YOm-SKKcGRVLbSdPVZwyA&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=29_oct_2018&n=16

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1 million back Indy’s Final Say petition

The Independent's petition for a Final Say hit a million signatures this weekend - a huge milestone for the campaign! Thanks to everyone who has backed our movement over the last few months. We’ve achieved a lot - as anyone at the People’s Vote march last weekend will tell you. We know May and her ministers will try to ignore the upsurge in public opinion. That’s why people need to get in touch with their MPs to let them know how strongly they feel about being given a voice on Brexit. It just takes a minute to do this with our handy tool. Click here and ask your friends to as well.
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Ruth Cadbury MP for Brentford & Isleworth has received a lot of letters from constituents as part of the Write This Wrong campaign telling her what they think about Brexit. Write to your MP HERE.

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Rolling towards disorderly Brexit

The UK has managed to “roll over” only 14 of the 236 international treaties that the EU has signed with countries around the world, the FT reports. The deals we need to replicate include trade pacts with over 60 countries - which Liam Fox promised to have ready for “one second after midnight” on March 29 2019.

One critical deal the trade secretary is struggling with is to sort out our independent membership of the World Trade Organisation. Several other countries, including Russia, are using our desperation to squeeze commercial advantage from us, according to the Guardian. But there also other key agreements, for everything from airlines’ take-off and landing rights at overseas airports, to industries such as financial services, fisheries and nuclear. These arrangements are all benefits we have from being inside the EU.
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“Other countries may see Brexit as an opportunity to reopen these [treaties], to get more out of the UK, rather than just roll over the existing agreements.

“They may have their own time-consuming domestic ratification processes. Agreement on how these treaties apply to the UK may also depend on what the UK’s future relationship with the EU looks like.”

An individual briefed on the slow “rolling over” of EU agreements with other countries explains to the FT why this process is not proving as easy as Brexiters expected.
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WATCH: For a lighter take on last week's Brexit news, here is the latest FFS Awards - presented by Jamie Grant.

https://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=YqgukYA3Mrlri-dqG7I8Tp-IpecFBimncYLpB4rD2OjyT-DGhZsBF54n8ZhMGt8sZdQwOBbispLwY5PCkyJ_Vg&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=29_oct_2018&n=30

Deutschland distracted

Any hope that Angela Merkel will ride to Theresa May’s rescue will be knocked by regional elections in the German state of Hesse. Merkel’s CDU party clung to power but lost ten points - undermining her national coalition too. Both May and her predecessor David Cameron have hoped the German chancellor would help them out on Brexit. This hasn’t proven true. Germany is a strong defender of the EU project, shown by Merkel’s constant warnings against British “cherry picking”. Now she might be too distracted even if she wanted to step in. That leaves Emmanuel Macron’s France, which has taken an even tougher line than Germany, an increasingly dominant voice among EU states.
More Brexit news…


Consultants paid £1.6m in a month for Brexit planning (Times £)

Britain sued over post-Brexit plan for EU nationals (FT £)

No-deal Brexit 'may mean cancelled NHS operations and staff shortages' (Guardian)

Brexit won't ruin Strictly Come Dancing - No 10 (BBC)
Top Brexit commenthttps://www.open-britain.co.uk/r?u=JVrTuh89eqOCis53dYaEcM1DMZA7h9i4MMbCM8IqjoYVaso6UlhHBpi1R_RhEcYH9YV2Thp7p5mQuAKno4au9gUl02Zbm5zdoZ2Wciw1wPBos4n_iqThK9W-ZlxMAsVA2bxJeVtCfCcZOeAVhmydp1sBGvg8CZ5sOcp5kJL4e30&e=7258668eab9c2d9ccad238fc304d70d7&utm_source=in&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=29_oct_2018&n=36


Luciana Berger: Brexit will be a disaster for the social care sector, leaving women at a particular disadvantage(Independent)

Matthew d’Ancona: This budget may not survive the coming Brexit hurricane (Guardian)

Gina Miller: There is no denying that a Final Say on Brexit is the true will of the people (Independent)
Looking forward...


Today, Monday 29th October
12:30 Pre-Budget Cabinet briefing
14:30 Home Office questions in Commons

15:30 Budget 2018

Tomorrow, Tuesday 30th October
- 150 days until Brexit day
- Theresa May at Northern Future Forum of northern European states

- Eurostat: EU GDP levels

11:30 Foreign Office questions in Commons
13:30 Immigration minister, Border Force, HMRC and NCA evidence to home affairs committee
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1146 Postby coffee » October 30th, 2018, 9:05 am

Philip Hammond announces post-Brexit cut in Income Tax: Brexit News for Tuesday 30th October


TODAY'S HEADLINES

Philip Hammond announces post-Brexit cut in Income Tax

Chancellor also increases cash allocated for Brexit preparations and gives fishing industry a boost

Number Ten insist a no-deal Brexit won’t affect public sector spending

Chris Grayling insists post-Brexit UK-EU flights will not be grounded

Angela Merkel sets date to quit after latest regional election drubbing

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... h-october/

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#1147 Postby coffee » October 30th, 2018, 4:58 pm

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Macron keeps sticking his unwelcome nose into the Brexit process, perhaps he should try focusing on his own country and improving what is frankly a dismal approval rating. His honeymoon is well and truly over!

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Another Macron poll, another 71% disapproval rating from French voters. Saviour of the EU indeed...

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REVEALED: MPs can NOT legally veto No Deal Brexit, according to House of Commons officials.

“Parliament will be able to ‘have a say’ in a No Deal scenario, but none of them provide Parliament with a legal veto over Brexit.”

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HARDLINE: Labour’s John McDonnell refuses to deny plan to 'overthrow capitalism'.

Jeremy Corbyn’s far-left agenda would trash Britain’s economy.

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Bulgarian state officials reportedly involved in flogging of Bulgarian passports on the black market for €5,000 apiece, facilitating unconditional entry to the European Union for countless illegal migrants.

Worrying! Who were they and where are they now?

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Bulgarian officials arrested, suspected of running scam enabling migrants to fraudulently obtain EU passports and then take advantage of open borders.

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Gerard Batten MEP Retweeted Migration Watch UK

The immigration rates successive Labour & Tory governments have subjected us to have been planned & deliberate. England is already one of the most densely populated countries in the world. There are no plans to stop. If you keep on voting Tory or Labour this is what you will get.Gerard Batten MEP added

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Eurozone grew by only 0.2% in Q3, well below modest growth in U.K. and suggesting it’s not only Brexit Britain that has a problem with low growth.

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Police Rubbish Remoaner Conspiracy

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John Redwood
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I have taken advice from lawyers. I have also read the report from the House of Lords—not a known bastion of leave enthusiasm. It said there is no legal requirement to pay a penny to the EU after we have left. If we leave on 29 March 2019, we would definitely save £39bn.

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The British public are behind a World Trade Brexit.

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John Longworth: a WTO Brexit would give the Chancellor an extra £39 billion to invest in infrastructure and cut taxes. It would also allow us to eliminate tariffs and reduce the cost of living.

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#1148 Postby coffee » October 31st, 2018, 11:11 am

Norwegian Prime Minister rejects the Norway model as a temporary arrangement for the UK: Brexit News for Wednesday 31st October

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... t-october/

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#1149 Postby Alan H » October 31st, 2018, 11:33 am

coffee wrote:Norwegian Prime Minister rejects the Norway model as a temporary arrangement for the UK: Brexit News for Wednesday 31st October

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... t-october/


The wheels on the Brexit Bus are all falling off, aren't they, coffee? What should the Tories do?
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1150 Postby coffee » October 31st, 2018, 5:35 pm

REVEALED: How Whitehall thought British public TOO STUPID to be trusted with EU decision

A SECRET document prepared for pro-Europe Tory Prime Minster Edward Heath shows how the Foreign Office knew EU membership would dismantle Britain as a sovereign nation.

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WORRYING: Bulgarian officials 'caught selling EU citizenship for €5,000'.

Brexit Britain must take back control of borders ASAP!

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Sharon Osbourne speaks out about the loss of British identity and not for the first time. Here she is on why she backed Brexit: "There are too many people in a tiny country. There are classrooms of 40 kids, the NHS is in the toilet. I say take care of your own people first."

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WATCH: Salvini: Scrapping Fornero law (austerity measures supported by Brussels) is "my duty".

"[It has] stolen years of work, sacrifice and pensions from millions of Italians. Juncker could walk here from Brussels and we would still dismantle the Fornero law whatever the cost!"

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Much-needed optimism from @RobertCourts who denounces the Project Fear "merchants of doom who insist on talking Britain down & who show little confidence in our talents, innovative spirit and hard work". Believe in Britain!

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The British public simply do not believe the scaremongering message that a 'No Deal' Brexit would be bad for Britain.

52% do not believe it will lead to less money for public services or believe that to be a price worth paying for true independence!

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"The weaker grasp those who voted against Brexit had on the issues shows how deeply Remain has been relying on fear, rather than the power of its arguments, to persuade people."

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Brexit shock poll: Most Britons do NOT fear leaving EU with NO-DEAL

MORE than half of Britons do not fear leaving the EU with a no-deal Brexit, a new poll has revealed.

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#1151 Postby coffee » November 1st, 2018, 9:27 am

Dominic Raab appears to confirm he expects a Brexit deal to be done by mid-November: Brexit News for Thursday 1st November

TODAY'S HEADLINES

Dominic Raab appears to confirm he expects a Brexit deal to be done by mid-November

EU wants answers from London on crunch talks issues ‘by middle of next week’

Times report claims that Theresa May has sealed a Brexit deal on financial services

Commons Clerk confirms that the Government can ignore non-statutory demands from MPs for alternative Brexit plans

Longest-serving SNP MP attacks Nicola Sturgeon's backing for second EU referendum

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -november/

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#1152 Postby Alan H » November 1st, 2018, 11:10 am

coffee wrote:Dominic Raab appears to confirm he expects a Brexit deal to be done by mid-November: Brexit News for Thursday 1st November


You providing the popcorn, coffee? Do you think it will be acceptable to Tory/UKIP?
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1153 Postby Alan H » November 1st, 2018, 11:57 am

We voted for this, didn't we? Revealed: Hospitals paying thousands for new visas to keep EU staff after Brexit
NHS hospitals are to pay for new visas for thousands of EU staff in a bid to keep them in London after Brexit, the Evening Standard can reveal.

University College London Hospitals, St George’s Hospitals and Guy’s and St Thomas’s are among the NHS trusts offering to foot the bill to prevent a feared exodus of foreign health workers.

More than one in 10 of the capital’s health workers are from other European countries and NHS leaders are concerned that the UK’s departure from the EU on March 29 next year will worsen dire staff shortages.

Professor Marcel Levi, chief executive of UCLH, one of the country’s elite NHS trusts, has written to almost 1,300 staff offering to cover the cost of each applying for “settled status”.

This is likely to cost UCLH, which has nine hospitals in central London, in excess of £100,000.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1154 Postby Alan H » November 1st, 2018, 12:28 pm

Oh dear: Arron Banks referred to National Crime Agency
The National Crime Agency is investigating Arron Banks and his Leave.EU campaign for alleged offences committed at the 2016 EU referendum.

The Leave campaigner and another senior figure in the campaign, Liz Bilney, were referred the agency by the Electoral Commission.

Mr Banks has consistently denied any wrongdoing in connection to the referendum campaign.

Leave.EU was a separate campaign to the official Vote Leave organisation.
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1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1155 Postby Alan H » November 1st, 2018, 12:37 pm

Arron Banks, Better for the Country and others referred to the National Crime Agency for multiple suspected offences
Published: 1 Nov 2018

A number of companies and individuals have been referred to the National Crime Agency for suspected criminal offences committed during the EU referendum.

Following its investigation into funding for the 2016 EU referendum, the Electoral Commission has referred: Better for the Country, the organisation that ran the Leave.EU referendum campaign; Arron Banks; Leave.EU; Elizabeth Bilney; and other associated companies and individuals. The National Crime Agency has now launched a criminal investigation.

The investigation focused on £2m reported to have been loaned to Better for the Country by Arron Banks and his group of insurance companies and a further £6m reported to have been given to the organisation, on behalf of Leave.EU, by Arron Banks alone.

£2.9m of this money was used to fund referendum spending on behalf of Leave.EU and donations to other campaign groups during the EU referendum.

Following its investigation, the Commission has reasonable grounds to suspect that:

Mr Banks was not the true source of the £8m loans made to Better for the Country.
Loans to Better for the Country, on behalf of Leave.EU, involved a non-qualifying or impermissible company – Rock Holdings Limited, which is incorporated in the Isle of Man.
Arron Banks, Elizabeth Bilney and others involved in Better for the Country, Leave.EU and associated companies concealed the true details of these financial transactions.
A number of criminal offences may have been committed.
Due to multiple suspected offences, some of which fall outside the Commission’s remit, the Commission has referred this matter and handed its evidence to the National Crime Agency.

Bob Posner, Electoral Commission Director of Political Finance and Regulation & Legal Counsel, said:

“We have reasonable grounds to suspect money given to Better for the Country came from impermissible sources and that Mr Banks and Ms Bilney, the responsible person for Leave.EU, knowingly concealed the true circumstances under which this money was provided. This is significant because at least £2.9m of this money was used to fund referendum spending and donations during the regulated period of the EU referendum.

“Our investigation has unveiled evidence that suggests criminal offences have been committed which fall beyond the remit of the Commission. This is why we have handed our evidence to the NCA to allow them to investigate and take any appropriate law enforcement action. This is now a criminal investigation.

“The financial transactions we have investigated include companies incorporated in Gibraltar and the Isle of Man. These jurisdictions are beyond the reach of the Electoral Commission for the purpose of obtaining information for use in criminal investigations or proceedings.”

Background to the investigation

Better for the Country was set up in May 2015. It was not a registered campaigner in the EU referendum, but it ran Leave.EU’s campaign on its behalf. It received money on behalf of Leave.EU, and paid Leave.EU’s referendum expenses. A total of £8m was provided to Leave.EU and Better for the Country in late 2015 and early 2016. Leave.EU reported Arron Banks as the only source of £6m. Better for the Country told us that it received a loan of £2m from Arron Banks and his insurance companies that was being made available for the referendum.

Better for the Country gave some £2.2m to other campaigners, which were reported as donations. It spent at least £750,000 on campaign payments on behalf of Leave.EU.

As a result of ongoing regulatory work we announced an investigation into Better for the Country and Arron Banks on 1 November 2017. This looked at whether Arron Banks was the true source of the loans and whether Better for the Country was the true source of the donations made by it to others. The law is that loans and donations to registered campaigners can only come from certain permissible sources, which essentially excludes overseas or foreign funding from any consequent impermissible influence on the outcome of the EU Referendum.

Report on investigation into payments made to Better for the Country and Leave.EU

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For more information contact the Electoral Commission press office on 020 7271 0704, out of office hours 07789 920 414 or press@electoralcommission.org.uk

Notes to editors

The Electoral Commission is the independent body which oversees elections and regulates political finance in the UK. We work to promote public confidence in the democratic process and ensure its integrity by:
enabling the delivery of free and fair elections and referendums, focusing on the needs of electors and addressing the changing environment to ensure every vote remains secure and accessible
regulating political finance – taking proactive steps to increase transparency, ensure compliance and pursue breaches
using our expertise to make and advocate for changes to our democracy,
aiming to improve fairness, transparency and efficiency
The Commission was set up in 2000 and reports to the UK and Scottish Parliaments.

The Electoral Commission has a range of enforcement powers under PPERA. Please see our website for more information on our regulatory work.
Any potential breaches of the rules which regulate non-political campaigners spending are considered in line with the Commission's enforcement policy. Once a month we publish details of any sanctions issued.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1156 Postby coffee » November 1st, 2018, 5:34 pm

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GET ON: Twice as many Brits want to leave the EU than stop Brexit a new poll finds.

-55% Leave options
-26% stop Brexit

Sorry Remainers Britain wants Brexit.

https://twitter.com/WestmonsterUK/statu ... 1004860416

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POLL: Leave voters felt more informed than Remainers, more EU-backers ‘knew nothing’ when they voted.

This will be totally ignored by the Remainstream media!

https://twitter.com/WestmonsterUK/statu ... 1037429761

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Gerard Batten MEP
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The Remain campaign massively outspent Leave. They had the political, media, & international establishment on their side. Obama made a special trip in order to threaten us and tell us how to vote. Remain still lost. But they have’t given up yet.

https://twitter.com/GerardBattenMEP/sta ... 0885450752

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Arron Banks
‏@Arron_banks

Gone fishing !

https://twitter.com/Arron_banks/status/ ... 6798245888

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WATCH | Aussie High Commissioner tells Brexit Britain to "seize the opportunities that are at your feet! Opportunities with North America, Asia, Australasia are just there to be grabbed. Be adventurous, recover the spirit of the merchant adventurers that made this nation great!"

https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/sta ... 4345848833

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The Alliance of British Entrepreneurs is giving a voice to businesses which are positive and optimistic about Brexit

https://twitter.com/LeaveMnsLeave/statu ... 7240294400

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sabel Oakeshott
‏@IsabelOakeshott

At #BeerandBrexit ⁦@TiceRichard⁩ (rightly) says the so-called “Northern Ireland problem” is a complete fallacy; there are perfectly workable solutions put forward by the EU’s own experts

https://twitter.com/IsabelOakeshott/sta ... 9123236865

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.@TiceRichard: Open borders has led to a reduction in workers rights with zero wage growth and zero hours contracts, and has encouraged businesses not to invest in British workers #BeerandBrexit

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.@TiceRichard: “I’m a Eurosceptic because I hate fraud, waste and corruption, and the EU is awash with those things” #BeerandBrexit

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The Remain campaign massively outspent Leave. They had the political, media, & international establishment on their side. Obama made a special trip in order to threaten us and tell us how to vote. Remain still lost. But they have’t given up yet.

https://twitter.com/GerardBattenMEP/sta ... 0885450752

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#1157 Postby Alan H » November 1st, 2018, 5:56 pm

Is panic beginning to set in at Brexit Central?

:laughter: :laughter: :laughter: :laughter:
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1158 Postby coffee » November 2nd, 2018, 11:38 am

Freedom of movement will continue in event of no-deal Brexit, suggests Sajid Javid: Brexit News for Friday 2nd November


TODAY'S HEADLINES

Freedom of movement will continue in event of no-deal Brexit, suggests Sajid Javid

EU floats compromise on Irish border backstop with London

Theresa May promises Scottish Tories the UK will be out of the Common Fisheries Policy by end of 2020

Prime Minister shoots down report that financial services Brexit deal is almost secured

David Trimble accuses Irish Government of using the Brexit talks to undermine the Good Friday Agreement


https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -november/

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#1159 Postby coffee » November 2nd, 2018, 5:02 pm

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SUNDAY: @Arron_banks will be live on BBC’s Marr Show.

https://twitter.com/WestmonsterUK/statu ... 2459403265

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CENSORSHIP: Oxford Labour Muslim Network lead charge to no-platform AfD Leader at University.

So many intolerant lefties now refuse to even debate. They just want to shut free speech completely.

https://twitter.com/WestmonsterUK/statu ... 8897861632

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US ECONOMY ON FIRE:

- 250,000 jobs added in October.
- Highest wage growth since 2009.
- Unemployment lowest since 1969.

Huge win for @realDonaldTrump!

https://twitter.com/WestmonsterUK/statu ... 5081013249

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In last few weeks alone we’ve seen 20 men convicted of abusing young girls in Huddersfield and another 7 in Rotherham. This was large scale, organised violent sexual abuse.

https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/stat ... 5773031424

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WATCH | Michael Portillo: "Members of the @ElectoralCommUK have behaved disgracefully by making it perfectly clear that they are Remain supporters. It is highly disappointing that people in such a responsible position have made their prejudice and bias play." Well said!

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BREAKING: Scotland Yard have announced a criminal investigation into allegations of anti-Semitic hate crimes within the Labour Party.

https://twitter.com/WestmonsterUK/statu ... 5170402305

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EU member states demand that we surrender control over our territorial waters.

https://twitter.com/LeaveMnsLeave/statu ... 0903312385

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The Common Fisheries Policy costs UK fishermen hundreds of millions of pounds each year. The sooner we are out, the better! #LeaveMeansLeave

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Remoaner: "For anybody else here who works in London, who would be serving our coffee in Pret?"

Yet another reminder that sanctimonious, virtue signalling middle class leftists only want mass immigration so they can keep their wage slaves.

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status ... 6891615232

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#1160 Postby Alan H » November 2nd, 2018, 5:39 pm

coffee wrote:US ECONOMY ON FIRE:

- 250,000 jobs added in October.
- Highest wage growth since 2009.
- Unemployment lowest since 1969.

Huge win for @realDonaldTrump!

What do you think these data show, coffee?

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1161 Postby coffee » November 3rd, 2018, 9:22 am

DUP furious at plan to leave Northern Ireland a 'rule taker' from EU: Brexit News for Saturday 3 November

TODAY'S HEADLINES

DUP furious with May's Northern Ireland plan

Irish say Brexit deal can be agreed within weeks

France's Irish deal could leave UK lorries queueing

Downing Street rebuked for customs claim


https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... -november/


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