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Alan H
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#1121 Postby Alan H » October 24th, 2018, 5:00 pm

Latest post of the previous page:

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1122 Postby coffee » October 25th, 2018, 9:18 am

Theresa May to trigger full-scale parliamentary no-deal planning ‘within three weeks’: Brexit News for October 25th


TODAY'S HEADLINES

Theresa May to trigger full-scale parliamentary no-deal planning ‘within three weeks’

‘There is no other way’ but to continue the Brexit talks, says Donald Tusk

Theresa May offers EU citizens the lifelong right to stay in Britain in return for free movement for expats

Michael Gove unveils post-Brexit Fisheries Bill

Brussels to pay out millions in golden handshakes for British MEPs


https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... ober-25th/

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#1123 Postby Alan H » October 25th, 2018, 10:51 am

coffee wrote:Theresa May to trigger full-scale parliamentary no-deal planning ‘within three weeks’: Brexit News for October 25th


TODAY'S HEADLINES

Theresa May to trigger full-scale parliamentary no-deal planning ‘within three weeks’

‘There is no other way’ but to continue the Brexit talks, says Donald Tusk

Theresa May offers EU citizens the lifelong right to stay in Britain in return for free movement for expats

Michael Gove unveils post-Brexit Fisheries Bill

Brussels to pay out millions in golden handshakes for British MEPs


https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... ober-25th/
:happyclappy: :clap: :party: :scorepoint: :thumbsup: :dance: :clap:

Yipee! Reality might finally hit home. This may be the most significant thing she's done that will finally end this fucking nightmare.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1124 Postby Alan H » October 25th, 2018, 5:06 pm

Relying on WTO rules after Brexit is working out just fine, isn't it, coffee? Piece of cake. Easiest trade deal in the world. A walk in the park.Brexit: Russia moves to block UK’s vision for world trade
Almost two dozen countries including Russia are attempting to prevent Britain from staying within the World Trade Organisation on terms similar to those it has enjoyed as a member of the European Union.

About 20 members of the WTO, which is based in Geneva, were understood last night to have raised objections to the UK’s post-Brexit trade proposals. As it prepares to become an independent WTO member after leaving the EU in March, Britain has proposed effectively replicating its share of the bloc’s imported goods.

The world trade body has 164 member states and was set up in 1995 as a regulator and somewhere for countries to negotiate deals and settle disputes. British officials have identified what they say is a fair share of EU quotas — limits on the amount of goods which can be traded between members before steep tariffs are introduced — and circulated their plans to WTO members in July.

Members had three months to object to the proposals, giving them until last night. A single objection prevents the WTO from certifying such schedules.

Countries including the United States and New Zealand have expressed concern over the proposals, which are based on Britain’s historical share of EU imports.

The Department for International Trade, led by Liam Fox, insisted yesterday that it was “not uncommon” for members to object after it emerged that Russia had lodged an official objection. A spokeswoman said that there were “well-established processes for dealing with this”. MLex, a news website, reported that Russia had argued Britain’s proposals were inconsistent with its obligations under WTO rules.

David Henig, a former assistant director at the trade department, said: “This is another case of the government being too optimistic. Welcome to trade reality.”
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1125 Postby Alan H » October 25th, 2018, 8:01 pm

But WTO rules (we were told) is a whizzo idea! UK signals failure of bid for quick Brexit transition at WTO
Britain signaled on Thursday that its attempt to seal terms for its post-Brexit membership of the World Trade Organization by a fast-track procedure had failed, and it must now enter negotiations which are likely to be lengthy.

This followed objections raised by a number of other WTO states, International Trade Minister Liam Fox said.

Britain is a full member of the WTO, but its terms are bound up with those of the European Union, and it needs to have an independent membership document that sets out the terms of its trade after leaving the bloc in March 2019.

Fox had tried to use a rapid “rectification” for a seamless transition, essentially copying and pasting the EU text into a new WTO agreement covering the United Kingdom. Other countries in the 164-member WTO had three months to raise objections, a deadline which passed this week.

“As expected, some trading partners have expressed reservations about our proposed treatment of Tariff Rate Quotas,” Fox said in a written statement to the British parliament, referring to trading rights granted to major agricultural exporters.

Fox did not name the objectors but he will have to switch to “modification” of the British WTO agreement, giving other countries the right to negotiate and demand concessions from London, which could take years.

British Ambassador to the WTO Julian Braithwaite said in a tweet that “a large majority” of WTO members had raised no objection.

If Britain does not satisfy its trading partners, they could launch trade disputes, which could go on for years more.
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1126 Postby Alan H » October 26th, 2018, 11:33 am

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Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1127 Postby coffee » October 26th, 2018, 4:30 pm

Dominic Raab warns that we will leave the EU without a deal if Brussels takes a 'deliberately intransigent' approach to talks: Brexit News for 26th October




https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... h-october/

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#1128 Postby Alan H » October 26th, 2018, 4:41 pm

coffee wrote:Dominic Raab warns that we will leave the EU without a deal if Brussels takes a 'deliberately intransigent' approach to talks: Brexit News for 26th October




https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... h-october/
You don't even realise why that is so funny, do you coffee?
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1129 Postby Alan H » October 26th, 2018, 4:54 pm

Hey! Coffee! How about spending just 14 minutes of your time watching this video, then tell us about your confidence that the issues created by Brexit will be resolved sufficiently by 31 March 2019 or by 31 December 2020?

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1130 Postby coffee » October 26th, 2018, 5:08 pm

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Macron tells eastern EU member states to accept fair share of migrants if they want to continue to "benefit from the European budget". Brussels now using extortion tactics to bend dissenting nations to their will.

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European Court of Human Rights rules that we cannot call a paedophile a paedophile.

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Another Project Fear claim shown to be untrue. #NoDealNoProblem

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Latest desperate losers lie, "Calais will be closed by French" (pushed by BBC)- completely dismissed by leader of Calais Region in France.

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#1131 Postby Alan H » October 26th, 2018, 5:38 pm

You do know that the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU, don't you coffee? And that we'll still be bound by the ECHR if we leave the EU?
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1132 Postby animist » October 26th, 2018, 9:01 pm

Alan H wrote:You do know that the ECHR has nothing to do with the EU, don't you coffee? And that we'll still be bound by the ECHR if we leave the EU?
obviously the leader of UKIP does not know this. Anyway, it does not seem that the ECHR has decreed that we cannot call Mohammed a paedophile. What it decided was that an Austrian court was not violating a woman's human rights by convicting her of insulting the Muslim religion to the detriment of civil peace. Imagine that this was a British court and case. If we were not in the ECHR the woman would still have been convicted; the failing, if was so, of the ECHR was in failing to reverse this decision

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#1133 Postby coffee » October 27th, 2018, 9:34 am

Hammond prepares income tax cuts in Brexit Budget boost: Brexit News for Saturday 27 October

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Today's news:

- Hammond prepares tax cut Budget to boost Brexit
- 'People's Vote' campaign accused of flouting Facebook rules
- French officials dismiss UK fears of Calais 'go-slow'
- Ratings agency says 'smooth' Brexit no longer assured

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... 7-october/

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#1134 Postby animist » October 27th, 2018, 1:23 pm

coffee wrote:Hammond prepares income tax cuts in Brexit Budget boost: Brexit News for Saturday 27 October

BrexitCentral

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Today's news:

- Hammond prepares tax cut Budget to boost Brexit
- 'People's Vote' campaign accused of flouting Facebook rules
- French officials dismiss UK fears of Calais 'go-slow'
- Ratings agency says 'smooth' Brexit no longer assured

https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... 7-october/
hey, coffee, how about this item from the BC:

"Russia seeks to capitalise on Brexit after blocking Liam Fox’s WTO plan."
Russia is among 20 countries that are looking to squeeze a commercial advantage from Brexit after blocking an attempt by the international trade secretary, Liam Fox, to fast-track a World Trade Organization deal on the UK’s terms of trade with the world. Whitehall is now facing “up to two dozen” different negotiations with countries over how much meat and dairy produce will be permitted into the British market and what tariffs the UK will set on imports. The development will pile pressure on the UK’s already strained resources. The Department for International Trade spent more than £1m on recruitment consultants alone in its first year trying to take on experienced trade negotiators, an area that had previously been left entirely to the EU. – Guardian

What I find instructive and amusing is that a premier pro-Brexit organ is now reduced (and at least, unlike Westmonster, it clearly acknowledges this) to reporting stuff which is not exactly favourable to our prospects should Brexit happen. What do you think, coffee?

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#1135 Postby coffee » October 27th, 2018, 5:01 pm

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The @hautsdefrance region and Calais are planning to implement a #FastPass to increase fluidity at both ports & tunnel. Who on earth could think that a go-slow approach would be good for business ?

https://twitter.com/xavierbertrand/stat ... 9267747841

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New poll confirms No Deal or Canada-Plus as public’s favoured Brexit outcome - Brian Monteith

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BOOST: Armed Forces set to receive £500m injection.

Our brave boys and girls deserve a government that backs them financially!

https://twitter.com/WestmonsterUK/statu ... 9549096960

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VARADKAR: We’re not preparing for hard border.

Neither are the EU. Nor the British government.

So who exactly would put up this phantom?

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Electoral Commission resignations over bias. Let’s hope that those who replace them will not be biased.

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WATCH | "An Islamic standard, that you can be punished for criticising Mohammad, is now the law in Europe..." - Brendan O'Neill & Tucker slam the disgraceful European Court ruling that sided with Muslim blasphemy laws against free speech

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Now that Claire Bassett has quit the @ElectoralCommUK, maybe it's time for Chairman John Holmes to reconsider his position too. How can we trust someone with clear anti-Brexit prejudice to regulate our democracy fairly?!

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This ruling is anti-Muslim. It reinforces a blasphemy code (only for Islam) in the name of “peace”. This is a disgusting ruling, allowed due to a bigotry of low expectations toward Muslims. The #RegressiveLeft would never protect Christianity like this

https://twitter.com/MaajidNawaz/status/ ... 3232601090

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Losers’ Vote are now also Cheaters: calling themselves a “community” on Facebook rather than a political group allows them to bypass the entire system negating the transparency measures that have been implemented for issues of national importance.

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#1136 Postby Alan H » October 27th, 2018, 6:47 pm

It's like reading stuff from a dystopian fantasy novel, coffee.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1137 Postby Alan H » October 27th, 2018, 8:57 pm

coffee wrote:WATCH | "An Islamic standard, that you can be punished for criticising Mohammad, is now the law in Europe..." - Brendan O'Neill & Tucker slam the disgraceful European Court ruling that sided with Muslim blasphemy laws against free speech

https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/sta ... 0113645569


Freedom to insult? Balancing freedom of expression with religious tolerance in ECHR case law
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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#1138 Postby coffee » October 28th, 2018, 12:06 pm

Dominic Raab and key ministers warn Theresa May against 'EU colony' status: Brexit News for Sunday 28 October


TODAY'S HEADLINES

Key ministers warn Theresa May against ‘EU colony’ status

Labour accused of plot to sabotage Brexit legislation

Anti-Brexit MPs seek to table “killer” amendment for a second referendum

Chancellor to unveil Brexit Budget to supercharge economy and unite Britain

Electoral Commission boss quits after claims it is biased against Brexit


https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit- ... 8-october/

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#1139 Postby coffee » October 28th, 2018, 12:14 pm

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If Czechoslovakia could be split up in six months in 1992, why should Brexit take six years? - Martin Páne

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#1140 Postby animist » October 28th, 2018, 1:12 pm

coffee wrote:BrexitCentral
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If Czechoslovakia could be split up in six months in 1992, why should Brexit take six years? - Martin Páne

https://twitter.com/BrexitCentral/statu ... 1161288704

oh well yes, the splitting up of Yugoslavia also went smoothly, didn't it?

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#1141 Postby Alan H » October 28th, 2018, 1:33 pm

animist wrote:
coffee wrote:BrexitCentral
‏@BrexitCentral

If Czechoslovakia could be split up in six months in 1992, why should Brexit take six years? - Martin Páne

https://twitter.com/BrexitCentral/statu ... 1161288704

oh well yes, the splitting up of Yugoslavia also went smoothly, didn't it?
You think Brexiters care?
Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?


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