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2016 US election

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Alan H
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Re: 2016 US election

#101 Post by Alan H » July 24th, 2016, 5:41 pm

Latest post of the previous page:

Frightening: Panorama - Trump's Angry America
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Re: 2016 US election

#102 Post by Ken H » July 25th, 2016, 1:40 am

Don't believe anything Trump says, he'll tell people what ever he thinks will get him votes.

Right-wing talk radio hosts (and most of them are), are really trying to scare people about Islam and that Trump has the answer to that problem. They probably never met ordinary Muslims, due to the scarcity of them in the US. They think they're all militants.

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Re: 2016 US election

#103 Post by Alan H » July 28th, 2016, 9:44 am

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#104 Post by Ken H » July 28th, 2016, 5:54 pm

:pointlaugh:
Where would they send Trump? Nobody would want him. He seems to be friendly with Putin though, having asked if Russia had any more of Hillary's missing emails.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/po ... mails.html
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Re: 2016 US election

#105 Post by Alan H » July 29th, 2016, 9:35 pm

Republican national-security leaders trash Donald Trump in joint letter
The letter runs down a list of objections to Trump's statements and foreign-policy positions. Their reasons are many, but a few of the most strongly worded are below:

His vision of American influence and power in the world is wildly inconsistent and unmoored in principle. He swings from isolationism to military adventurism within the space of one sentence.

His hateful, anti-Muslim rhetoric undercuts the seriousness of combatting Islamic radicalism by alienating partners in the Islamic world making significant contributions to the effort. Furthermore, it endangers the safety and Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms of American Muslims.

His admiration for foreign dictators such as Vladimir Putin is unacceptable for the leader of the world’s greatest democracy.

He is fundamentally dishonest. Evidence of this includes his attempts to deny positions he has unquestionably taken in the past, including on the 2003 Iraq war and the 2011 Libyan conflict. We accept that views evolve over time, but this is simply misrepresentation.

The letter's conclusion called Trump "utterly unfitted to the office" of president.
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2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
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Re: 2016 US election

#106 Post by jaywhat » July 30th, 2016, 6:12 am

This election is one of the very important, scary and worrying events the world is facing. One does not have to choose Clinton, but one does have to reject Trump.

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Re: 2016 US election

#107 Post by Dave B » July 30th, 2016, 10:28 am

jaywhat wrote:This election is one of the very important, scary and worrying events the world is facing. One does not have to choose Clinton, but one does have to reject Trump.
Wise words, jaywhat. :nod:
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Re: 2016 US election

#108 Post by Alan H » July 30th, 2016, 10:44 am

Dave B wrote:
jaywhat wrote:This election is one of the very important, scary and worrying events the world is facing. One does not have to choose Clinton, but one does have to reject Trump.
Wise words, jaywhat. :nod:
One problem is the number of those who might not vote for Trump, who don't vote for Clinton, but for one of the other two candidates, Jill Stein (Green) or Gary Johnson (Libertarian).
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#109 Post by Dave B » July 30th, 2016, 11:07 am

Alan H wrote:
Dave B wrote:
jaywhat wrote:This election is one of the very important, scary and worrying events the world is facing. One does not have to choose Clinton, but one does have to reject Trump.
Wise words, jaywhat. :nod:
One problem is the number of those who might not vote for Trump, who don't vote for Clinton, but for one of the other two candidates, Jill Stein (Green) or Gary Johnson (Libertarian).
Yes, the problem of strategic voting occurred to me later. At first I thought of it as there being only two choices other than Trump, Hilary or abstain.

Then realised that means the Trumpites might get advantage. Abstention and voting for no-chancers are not really different in the final analysis.

And the majority of Americans are sufficuently insular to ignore that their vote might affect the whole world.
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Re: 2016 US election

#110 Post by Alan H » July 30th, 2016, 11:55 am

Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#111 Post by Alan H » July 30th, 2016, 1:46 pm

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#112 Post by Dave B » July 30th, 2016, 4:24 pm

More Republicans gang up on the Trump...
Any one of Trump's less-than-sterling qualities - his erratic temperament, his dodgy business practices, his racism, his Putin-like strongman inclinations and faux-populist demagoguery, his contempt for the rule of law, his ignorance - is enough to be disqualifying. His convention-speech comment, "I alone can fix it," should make every American shudder. He is, we believe, a danger to the Republic.
Seems the Chronicle normally takes a Rep stance.
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Re: 2016 US election

#113 Post by Alan H » July 30th, 2016, 10:12 pm

Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#114 Post by Dave B » July 30th, 2016, 11:05 pm

As usual, crap from all sides.
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Re: 2016 US election

#115 Post by Alan H » August 3rd, 2016, 7:19 pm

Fucking scary.

Joe Scarborough: 'Morning Joe' Co-Host Says Donald Trump Asked Adviser Why US Can't Use Nuclear Weapons

John Noonan's Twitter bio says: "Did national security for @JebBush, @MittRomney. Bourbon helps. Sell your bonds and pray for America. #NeverTrump"

Read his Tweets on this: John Noonan on nuclear deterrence and Donald Trump
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#116 Post by Alan H » August 18th, 2016, 11:48 pm

VIDEO: BIZARRE, NAKED DONALD TRUMP STATUE APPEARS IN UNION SQUARE
The statue at Union Square Park in Manhattan drew significant attention, with many people gathering around to take photos. But it was removed rather quickly by the parks department.
The New York City Parks Department issued a statement Thursday, saying "NYC Parks stands firmly against any unpermitted erection in city parks, no matter how small."
:hilarity: :hilarity: :hilarity: :hilarity:
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#117 Post by Tetenterre » August 19th, 2016, 11:02 am

:pointlaugh:
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Re: 2016 US election

#118 Post by Ken H » August 19th, 2016, 3:03 pm

That was funny!
"The emperor has no balls". :D

Hilliary appears to be pulling ahead in most of the polls. It seems every time Trump opens his mouth he loses voters. I see he has begun changing his tactics again to appear more presidential (if that's possible).
November 8th can't come around too quickly for me.
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Re: 2016 US election

#119 Post by Dave B » August 21st, 2016, 5:57 pm

It's all part of The Great American Way of Politics ( :sick: )

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Re: 2016 US election

#120 Post by Alan H » August 22nd, 2016, 1:37 pm

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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: 2016 US election

#121 Post by Alan H » September 11th, 2016, 12:44 am

Alan Henness

There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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