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animist wrote:oh dear, do you actually know what you mean when you use these terms?Pahu wrote:animist wrote:this prompts an obvious question. Where in the Bible does it say that there were 10 chariot cities?
It doesn't in so many words, but consider this:
1 Kings 4:26 states that Solomon had forty-thousand stalls of horses. It does not state how many stalls of chariots there are. It does state that there are twelve-thousand horsemen.
2 Chronicles 9:25 states that Solomon had four-thousand stalls for horses and chariots, together. They both agree on the twelve-thousand horsemen.
This is a simple mathematical issue. If you have forty-thousand stalls of horses, which occupy four-thousand stalls for horses and chariots, you have 10 stalls of horses for each chariot.
I don't see the error here.
1 My query was about the number of "chariot cities", whatever they are. You have not answered the query but instead have wangled some possible referents of the numbers 4,000 and 40,000 to make the two accounts consistent. So what are chariot cities and how do you deduce that there were 10 of them?
2 What do you mean when you refer to "4,000 stalls for horses and chariots together"? And how would they be "occupied" by "40,000 stalls of horses"? I can see that a stall might be for occupation by a horse or a chariot or for both together. I don't see how a stall can occupy another stall, do you? No doubt it there is some interpretation of these statements which can make them consistent (if incredibly confusing, which itself is a good reason to suspect that they were written by different people with little help from God) but you are simply playing with possibilities without any Biblical warrant
3 By moving from one possible explaining away of the inconsistency (ie your explanation about chariot cities) to a different one (ie different stalls for different things) you've kind of contradicted yourself. I don't see how both interpretations you've come up with could be correct: if there were 10 chariot cities then all your complicated stuff about chariots and horses is redundant and indeed would make the figures wrong again.
4 A Xian site indicates that Solomon did indeed have several chariot cities, but fewer than 10 are mentioned; and this site maintains that the inconsistency in the two accounts is a simple copyist's error.
Suit yourself. I believe the Bible is accurate since God is the author. There are areas that are a problem indicating our ignorance, not Bible contradictions. This explanation seems reasonable:
How many stalls for horses and Chariots did King Solomon have? how many stalls for horses did solomon have
According to 1 KI 4:26, Solomon had 40,000 stalls but 2 CH 9:25 says that Solomon only had 4,000 stalls. How many stalls for horses did Solomon have? Is this a bona fide Bible contradiction or is there a way to solve this problem? We’re going to explore three different ways that believers have potentially solved this alleged Bible contradiction.
1. Could this be a copyist error?
Many propose (me not included) that this is a simple copyist error. I will agree that either accidentally adding or subtracting a zero is all that it would take to cause all this confusion but would God allow his word to get corrupted?
2. 1 Kings and 2Chronicles were written at different times.
It is true that both books were written about 125 years apart. Perhaps Solomon had more or less stalls for horses and chariots at the time of the books writings. Is this possible? Sure…but I think there is yet a better explanation for this alleged Bible contradiction.
3. 4,000 or 40,000 stalls for horses?
Small differences in the text can have a huge impact on the interpretation. Let’s look at the two verses as they are written in the King James Version.
1KI 4:26 “And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.”
2CH 9:25 “And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.”
Solomon’s horses, chariots and stalls Bible contradiction solved
According to the King James version, Solomon had 40,000 stalls of horses for his chariots but he had 4,000 stalls for his horses and his chariots. In other words, Solomon had 40,000 stalls for horses, but he had 4,000 stalls that would fit his horses and chariots. Am I stretching this explanation too far?
According to the Webster’s 1828 dictionary, (the dictionary that best explains KJV words) the word stall can be for one horse or it can be a stable of ten horses. In other words: King Solomon had 4,000 stalls and in each stall there was one chariot and ten horses. This would have meant that Solomon could have had 40,000 stalls for horses and had 4,000 stalls for horses and chariots.
Once again the Bible proves to be without error. For further reading about this alleged Bible contradiction see the following links.
http://youthapologeticstraining.com/how ... isode-317/