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by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 1:05 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous Discussions...
Topic: Australian Guides show the way
Replies: 66
Views: 5579

Re: Australian Guides show the way

A general stripping of religion and all its subsequent forms from the public square including politics and social practices? I'd agree with the public square and politics, but why do you include 'social practices' and can you define what you mean by that? Easy. When religious forms and traditions a...
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 1:03 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: Eternal torment in Hell
Replies: 119
Views: 9734

Re: Eternal torment in Hell

Alan H wrote:
Kismet wrote:
Alan H wrote:What do you think quantum physics is?
The ground of Being!
What do you think that answer explains?
It is not an explanation, but rather the basis of any possible explanation.
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 1:02 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous Discussions...
Topic: Australian Guides show the way
Replies: 66
Views: 5579

Re: Australian Guides show the way

A general stripping of religion and all its subsequent forms from the public square including politics and social practices?
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 1:00 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous Discussions...
Topic: Australian Guides show the way
Replies: 66
Views: 5579

Re: Australian Guides show the way

So the point is, you can't be neutral and secular, because then you default to secularism.
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 12:55 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous Discussions...
Topic: Australian Guides show the way
Replies: 66
Views: 5579

Re: Australian Guides show the way

Alan H wrote:
Kismet wrote:"Secularization (or secularisation) is the transformation of a society from close identification with religious values and institutions toward nonreligious (or irreligious) values and secular institutions. "
- wikipedia
And does that concord with your complete understanding of the word?
Yes.
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 12:52 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous Discussions...
Topic: Australian Guides show the way
Replies: 66
Views: 5579

Re: Australian Guides show the way

What do you think 'secularisation' means? I'm not interested in quibbling over definitions. Both you and I know what it means. I have an understanding of what it means, but before we can discuss anything about it, I have to have an understanding of what you think it means. If we don't have that und...
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 12:50 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: Eternal torment in Hell
Replies: 119
Views: 9734

Re: Eternal torment in Hell

Alan H wrote:What do you think quantum physics is?
The ground of Being!
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 12:49 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous Discussions...
Topic: Australian Guides show the way
Replies: 66
Views: 5579

Re: Australian Guides show the way

Alan H wrote:What do you think 'secularisation' means?
I'm not interested in quibbling over definitions. Both you and I know what it means.
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 12:48 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: Eternal torment in Hell
Replies: 119
Views: 9734

Re: Eternal torment in Hell

Science is at home with A Course in Miracles in the form of Quantum Physics. Quantum Physics, ACIM, and Advaita Vedanta all agree. They basically say that this world is a projection and has no independent existence. I'm sure Brian Cox reads 'A Course in Miracles' most nights, whilst watching the pi...
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 12:38 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: Guilt, Projection, and Moral Execution
Replies: 38
Views: 8588

Re: Guilt, Projection, and Moral Execution

1st. I am not speaking of only old persons. But rather all persons who, as they age, become conditioned in more ways than one. 2nd. I do not have everyone in mind, but rather those poor souls who commit to bad deeds later on in life, as I believe them to be spurned on by such conditioning. 3rd. Wha...
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 12:36 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous Discussions...
Topic: Australian Guides show the way
Replies: 66
Views: 5579

Re: Australian Guides show the way

Alan H wrote:
Kismet wrote:Is a secularization of public life by its nature neutral? I cannot tell.
Why can't you tell?
Secularization is equivalent to neutral? How?
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 12:35 pm
Forum: Religion
Topic: Eternal torment in Hell
Replies: 119
Views: 9734

Re: Eternal torment in Hell

Kenneth Wapnick is a good start. A good start for what? Addling your brain with nonsense? Sorry, Kenneth Wapnick is NOT a good start. Anyway, that book was not written by him, wasn't it written by Helen Schucman with the help of William Thetford based on what she called an "inner voice" which she i...
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 12:33 pm
Forum: Sciences and pseudo-science
Topic: The Science of Morality
Replies: 25
Views: 3070

Re: The Science of Morality

Fia wrote:How can not eating a certain type of frog be an 'infallible religious rite'? :shrug:
The cultural superego does not respect supposed modern 'rational concepts' built-into the fabric of reality.
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 12:32 pm
Forum: Education
Topic: Atheist school's values & ethics
Replies: 308
Views: 72386

Re: Atheist school's values & ethics

What concerns me with regard to lists such as these, is they do not appear to be enfolded within a single accord of meaning. Whereas the original ten commandments were placed underneath the foot of Being absolute, these "commandments" are as it were discrete casings, originating from an eldritch co...
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 12:29 pm
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: How becoming a Humanist transformed my life for the better
Replies: 22
Views: 3041

Re: How becoming a Humanist transformed my life for the better

Put simply, you can imagine axes extending outward from your own body and attaching themselves to each of these propositions. I consider this a bad thing. What are you talking about Kismet, utter drivel, I can imagine no such thing. Me thinks you are a troll! You find the center of Being within the...
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 12:27 pm
Forum: Humanist Ethics & Morality
Topic: Guilt, Projection, and Moral Execution
Replies: 38
Views: 8588

Re: Guilt, Projection, and Moral Execution

1st. I am not speaking of only old persons. But rather all persons who, as they age, become conditioned in more ways than one. 2nd. I do not have everyone in mind, but rather those poor souls who commit to bad deeds later on in life, as I believe them to be spurned on by such conditioning. 3rd. What...
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 9:32 am
Forum: Positive Humanism
Topic: A Northumberland HUMANIST nurse donates kidney to stranger
Replies: 29
Views: 4876

Re: A Northumberland HUMANIST nurse donates kidney to stranger

God is good, That is not a counter-example. Those qualities, perceived by humans to be "good", of a human-created imaginary being cannot, by any definition, be related to anything other than human-ness. (If you wish to assert that deities are not human-created entities, you need to show evidence of...
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 9:24 am
Forum: Religion
Topic: Eternal torment in Hell
Replies: 119
Views: 9734

Re: Eternal torment in Hell

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0014/6902/products/ACIM-paperback-1_large.jpg?100174 Highly recommended. Yuck! My sister-in-law gave us that to read a few decades ago. Pretentious, long-winded, rationality-free drivel. (IMNSVHO, of course) Perhaps you lack the proper exegesis. Kenneth Wapnick is a...
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 9:23 am
Forum: Positive Humanism
Topic: A Northumberland HUMANIST nurse donates kidney to stranger
Replies: 29
Views: 4876

Re: A Northumberland HUMANIST nurse donates kidney to stranger

Why relate the good action to the fact of human-ness at all? Would you rather we relate good action by a human to animal-ness or vegetable-ness? I submit that it can only be related to human-ness. Edit: BTW, thanks, Jaywhat! :wink: One counterexample is sufficient to refute this. God is good, at le...
by Kismet
July 10th, 2012, 9:15 am
Forum: Education
Topic: Atheist school's values & ethics
Replies: 308
Views: 72386

Re: Atheist school's values & ethics

What concerns me with regard to lists such as these, is they do not appear to be enfolded within a single accord of meaning. Whereas the original ten commandments were placed underneath the foot of Being absolute, these "commandments" are as it were discrete casings, originating from an eldritch co...