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by Dan
October 6th, 2009, 6:23 pm
Forum: Sciences and pseudo-science
Topic: The Electricity of Touch
Replies: 43
Views: 5696

Re: The Electricity of Touch

I am with you on this. What I am saying is that what we think is irrational at a particular point in time may later be proved to be rational with general growth in knowledge in many related areas. History is proof enough for this. No, you're not with me on this. I think you're exploiting an ambigui...
by Dan
October 6th, 2009, 5:55 pm
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: Are you a humanist or what?
Replies: 456
Views: 82251

Re: Are you a humanist or what?

I would have thought that if it needs explaining it has failed as a metaphor. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder etc.. Well, yes, in a literary sense. If you write some elaborate metaphor in a poem, and nobody understands it, then it's failed, but at least you should be able to say, "well, what I...
by Dan
October 6th, 2009, 5:49 pm
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: Examining Atheism & Agnosticism
Replies: 68
Views: 5072

Re: Examining Atheism & Agnosticism

I don't think it is resolvable through arguments. Dan, I asked you to read "Mapping the Mind" by Rita Carter but you refused. You are being dogmatic. A scientist tests hypotheses with an open mind. It helps if you have a hypothesis to test first. And it's not dogmatic to insist that someone read a ...
by Dan
October 5th, 2009, 12:31 am
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: Are you a humanist or what?
Replies: 456
Views: 82251

Re: Are you a humanist or what?

Nirvanam wrote: I think we would all be losing something if we remove metaphors out of our communication.
I'm all in favour of metaphors. Just so long as we're clear what they are metaphors for. If nobody can tell us what the metaphor is metaphorically referring to, then it has failed as a metaphor.

Dan
by Dan
October 5th, 2009, 12:26 am
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: Are you a humanist or what?
Replies: 456
Views: 82251

Re: Are you a humanist or what?

I think you're being far too much of a literalist -- figures of speech do exist, and are not necessarily evil for existing. Cheers, Gurdur the ultimately evil Western dupe of malevolent figures of speech Right, so is "respect" a "figure of speech"? If it is, what is it a "figure of speech", for, ex...
by Dan
October 5th, 2009, 12:17 am
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: Examining Atheism & Agnosticism
Replies: 68
Views: 5072

Re: Examining Atheism & Agnosticism

Language is such an imprecise tool for communication that it invariable creates apparent paradoxes. I disagree. I don’t think it invariably does anything of the kind, if you use a little bit of care and clear thinking. You see, there is no such thing called ME or I. I don't really exist as an entit...
by Dan
October 4th, 2009, 11:51 pm
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: Examining Atheism & Agnosticism
Replies: 68
Views: 5072

Re: Examining Atheism & Agnosticism

Compassionist is merely expressing the idea of psychological determinism. Hey may well be wrong, as I would hold, but be fair to him, all he is doing is putting the idea of psychological determinism into everyday language. He's putting it into paradoxical language, and I'm calling him on it. Appare...
by Dan
October 4th, 2009, 11:30 pm
Forum: Sciences and pseudo-science
Topic: The Electricity of Touch
Replies: 43
Views: 5696

Re: The Electricity of Touch

What really mattes is first the individual. Are you and I as individuals open enough to consider a particular possibility. If we are then let us consider it and learn something about it in order to reject it. If we are not then probably we need a mirror to understand what we are fighting against or...
by Dan
October 4th, 2009, 11:04 pm
Forum: Sciences and pseudo-science
Topic: Is this true?
Replies: 45
Views: 3606

Re: Is this true?

There's probably a fifth option: put the environment back the way it was. There's probably more. But really, for all this supposedly profound namedropping of TRIZ, vedas etc etc etc, I'm seeing nothing that is really profound, and quite a lot that is trite and obvious. So what's the point of all thi...
by Dan
September 22nd, 2009, 3:15 pm
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: Are you a humanist or what?
Replies: 456
Views: 82251

Re: Are you a humanist or what?

How about in the sense that you can respect someone's right to free speech for example, or respect an attribute in someone's character? Yes, you could say that a right has a purpose and an attribute would be something that has a positive effect, and in that sense, it has been earned, but the univer...
by Dan
September 22nd, 2009, 3:09 pm
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: Are you a humanist or what?
Replies: 456
Views: 82251

Re: Are you a humanist or what?

Very similar to the feeling you had of disgust when I retaliated in kind, just know that when you accuse me of a disgusting thing like hindutva I also feel the same disgust. Now I can actually come out and say that you racially profiled me: south indian chap with a username based on a sanskrit word...
by Dan
September 22nd, 2009, 2:30 pm
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: Examining Atheism & Agnosticism
Replies: 68
Views: 5072

Re: Examining Atheism & Agnosticism

A choice that originates within your brain-body unit (whether or not this is Maya or the Matrix or some other illusion) is a choice that occurs according to causality. Your preferences are not yours. Your life is not yours. Even you are not yours. Bullshit. "Your preferences are not yours"??? What ...
by Dan
September 22nd, 2009, 2:10 pm
Forum: Sciences and pseudo-science
Topic: Is time an illusion?
Replies: 82
Views: 5150

Re: Is time an illusion?

Fascinating, but not apparently relevant to "free will". Is my definition of "free will" excessively idealistic, as Paolo argues? Clearly in practice the choices available to us are limited, and we cannot act with impunity in society. A shackled prisoner is much less free than I am, and has a much m...
by Dan
September 15th, 2009, 9:42 pm
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: Are you a humanist or what?
Replies: 456
Views: 82251

Re: Are you a humanist or what?

Help please! Could Dan or any other philosophically literate person tell me if I'm using "teleology" correctly here? I understand the strict meaning I think, but I'd like to know if rejecting ultimate "purpose" and "meaning" may correctly be called rejecting "teleology". I think maybe I'm using the...
by Dan
September 15th, 2009, 1:44 pm
Forum: Sciences and pseudo-science
Topic: Is time an illusion?
Replies: 82
Views: 5150

Re: Is time an illusion?

The trouble is that I can't according to my own beliefs and desires because my ability to do so is constrained by causality. I would love to be free of my constant pain and my bipolar disorder but I am not able to be free. If that is not being a prisoner, I don't know what is! Indeed, but it's also...
by Dan
September 15th, 2009, 1:23 pm
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: Examining Atheism & Agnosticism
Replies: 68
Views: 5072

Re: Examining Atheism & Agnosticism

A causally determined choice is a choice determined by antecedants and is not a free choice. Why not? I think it's perfectly reasonable to say that a choice is freely made if it is made by me, in accordance with my own preferences, and uncoerced. What's unfree about that? An actual prisoner is cons...
by Dan
September 13th, 2009, 12:15 am
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: Examining Atheism & Agnosticism
Replies: 68
Views: 5072

Re: Examining Atheism & Agnosticism

In that other thread I have pointed out that a causally determined choice is still a choice. And making choices is what agency is about. Therefore hard determinism does not eliminate agency at all. Furthermore, I cannot make much sense of the notion of being a "prisoner" of causality, because I don'...
by Dan
September 13th, 2009, 12:10 am
Forum: Sciences and pseudo-science
Topic: Is time an illusion?
Replies: 82
Views: 5150

Re: Is time an illusion?

I am sorry but I don't agree. I don't see how any of our choices are free from the interactions of genes, physical environments, nutrients and experiences. I have been thinking about it for years and I am convinced that as far as evidence goes, only hard determinism is the defendable stance. Of cou...
by Dan
September 12th, 2009, 11:56 pm
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: Are you a humanist or what?
Replies: 456
Views: 82251

Re: Are you a humanist or what?

Could you explain why you are opposed to showing reverence and awe towards the universe? Yes, it's because it's illiterate and diluted pantheism. There's nothing about the so-called universe that demands veneration, or even respect. Respect has to be earned, and I don't see that such earning can be...
by Dan
September 12th, 2009, 11:45 pm
Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
Topic: Are you a humanist or what?
Replies: 456
Views: 82251

Re: Are you a humanist or what?

Nirvanam: Leaving aside your disgraceful accusation of racism against me... actually, no, I'm not going to leave it aside. There's absolutely no point whatsoever engaging in discussions with people who do not show any understanding of how reasonable discussions work. See, when someone criticises one...