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- May 20th, 2012, 12:43 am
- Forum: Religion
- Topic: Irish Catholic Priests Rebel!
- Replies: 85
- Views: 8808
Re: Irish Catholic Priests Rebel!
We seem to have different understandings of the word culpable. If I choose to do something, knowing the future repercussions, or if I choose to do nothing, knowing the repercussions, then I am culpable. Is an omniscient god devoid of such culpability? If so, why? Culpare - Latin, to blame. Ownershi...
- May 20th, 2012, 12:09 am
- Forum: Religion
- Topic: Irish Catholic Priests Rebel!
- Replies: 85
- Views: 8808
Re: Irish Catholic Priests Rebel!
So do you see god as in any way culpable for creating the Universe in such a way knowing that it was going to kill millions? Culpable, no. Life belongs to God; he gives it and he takes it away again. It is his own possession. Everything in the universe has a limited lifespan. Some things get billio...
- May 19th, 2012, 10:29 pm
- Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
- Topic: Trying to define Humanism
- Replies: 116
- Views: 19794
Re: Trying to define Humanism
This has to be a contender for most buried presuppositions in one sentence.Athena wrote: Do you always react like this when you come across a piece of prose you don't understand at first sight?
Congratulations.
- May 19th, 2012, 10:22 pm
- Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
- Topic: Trying to define Humanism
- Replies: 116
- Views: 19794
Re: Trying to define Humanism
How kind. I must say, this place is very good for my soul.animist wrote:I think you are being disingenuous and nit-picking
you have it wrong about Orwell's "1984"
I am going to start a collection of epithets and put them into my siggie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublespeak
- May 19th, 2012, 10:16 pm
- Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
- Topic: Trying to define Humanism
- Replies: 116
- Views: 19794
Re: Trying to define Humanism
Cathy, you have it exactly the wrong way round. The so-called wisdom of Solomon says nothing about wisdom, only how great it is. The claim that wisdom is about happiness may not be correct, and it is for you to dispute this, but it at least does say something. Humanism as defined is roughly a sort ...
- May 19th, 2012, 10:05 pm
- Forum: Comedy Club
- Topic: At Church on sunday...
- Replies: 7
- Views: 4338
Re: At Church on sunday...
Hilarious.Boxertwin wrote:I was at church on Sunday and when the collection came around I put some Monopoly money in the basket. The priest said to me, "What are you doing? That's not real money!"
I replied, "Well, let's talk about this god of yours..."
What some people find funny.
- May 19th, 2012, 9:55 pm
- Forum: Positive Humanism
- Topic: Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain (CEMB) Birthday Bash!
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2695
Re: Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain (CEMB) Birthday Bash!
Hmmm... I think we're getting a little off-topic here. The opener of this thread invited us to attend a dinner in celebration of the 5th anniversary of the council of Ex Muslims. I would like to attend, but London is a bit far for me. Wouldn't Birmingham be a better location for such an event (as i...
- May 18th, 2012, 2:30 pm
- Forum: Religion
- Topic: Irish Catholic Priests Rebel!
- Replies: 85
- Views: 8808
Re: Irish Catholic Priests Rebel!
No, God did not cause the earthquake. Movement of tectonic plates causes earthquakes. (I bet I have that wrong, and some geologist will come along and explains it properly!) A good enough explanation. But didn't god create the earth/universe to be that way, knowing full well exactly what was going ...
- May 18th, 2012, 2:16 pm
- Forum: Miscellaneous Discussions...
- Topic: Free Speech, Minority "Rights" and the ASA
- Replies: 30
- Views: 3082
Re: Free Speech, Minority "Rights" and the ASA
Has anyone suggested that every school should also be given a copy of "The Origin . . ." yet? Perhaps the "Humanist Dipper" as well if it still exists. I hate to say this, but any High School that does not already have a copy of the Origin of Species in its library is in serious trouble. Coals to N...
- May 18th, 2012, 2:13 pm
- Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
- Topic: Trying to define Humanism
- Replies: 116
- Views: 19794
Re: Trying to define Humanism
Poetry is basically crap anyway, from a serious philosophical viewpoint. "No man is an island", "Truth is beauty" - total rubbish, however good they sound. Why is the concept that 'no man is an island' total rubbish in relation to serious philosophy? Man is a social animal; each of us needs other p...
- May 18th, 2012, 2:11 pm
- Forum: Religion
- Topic: Irish Catholic Priests Rebel!
- Replies: 85
- Views: 8808
Re: Irish Catholic Priests Rebel!
The sort of thing that I can never understand is situation like the Haiti earthquake. There must have been a whole lot of evil people there (hmm, considering Haiti's history that could well be right). But there were thousands of kids and others killed that were almost certainly innocent. Regardless...
- May 18th, 2012, 1:13 pm
- Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
- Topic: Trying to define Humanism
- Replies: 116
- Views: 19794
Re: Trying to define Humanism
Poetry is basically crap anyway, from a serious philosophical viewpoint. "No man is an island", "Truth is beauty" - total rubbish, however good they sound. Why is the concept that 'no man is an island' total rubbish in relation to serious philosophy? Man is a social animal; each of us needs other p...
- May 18th, 2012, 1:07 pm
- Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
- Topic: Trying to define Humanism
- Replies: 116
- Views: 19794
Re: Trying to define Humanism
Worse; far, far worse.Dave B wrote:Sort of religious version of the great Mcgonagall?Celtic Christian stuff is pretty dire as well.
http://www.christianbook.com/border-lan ... /pd/510701
- May 17th, 2012, 6:49 pm
- Forum: Religion
- Topic: Irish Catholic Priests Rebel!
- Replies: 85
- Views: 8808
Re: Irish Catholic Priests Rebel!
Doesn't god kill about 2 million people in the Bible for such heinous crimes as looking at a city burning when told not to Aaah, but that's allegorical! Pay attention! If only. I am afraid the stories of bloodshed and slaughter may well have a lot of truth in them. The ancients did not have the sam...
- May 17th, 2012, 6:42 pm
- Forum: Religion
- Topic: Irish Catholic Priests Rebel!
- Replies: 85
- Views: 8808
Re: Irish Catholic Priests Rebel!
Clarity is not the issue; 'thou shalt not kill' is clear enough for those of us willing to accept that it means what it says. But that doesn't include god himself. Doesn't god kill about 2 million people in the Bible for such heinous crimes as looking at a city burning when told not to. (Lot's wife...
- May 17th, 2012, 5:44 pm
- Forum: Miscellaneous Discussions...
- Topic: Free Speech, Minority "Rights" and the ASA
- Replies: 30
- Views: 3082
Re: Free Speech, Minority "Rights" and the ASA
The ASA's remit does not include political advertising around election time: Political advertising All complaints of political bias in TV or radio advertising should be made to Ofcom (http://www.ofcom.org.uk). For reasons of freedom of speech, we do not have a remit over non-broadcast ads where the...
- May 17th, 2012, 4:53 pm
- Forum: Positive Humanism
- Topic: Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain (CEMB) Birthday Bash!
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2695
Re: Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain (CEMB) Birthday Bash!
Most kind.Christ wrote:Good morning, just. An invite from the CEMB to atheists, humanists, free-thinkers, secularists and the like is below. It would be great if you could join us!
Many happy returns, CEMB.
- May 17th, 2012, 4:50 pm
- Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
- Topic: Trying to define Humanism
- Replies: 116
- Views: 19794
Re: Trying to define Humanism
You tell me.Alan H wrote:Much like any similar extract from the bible, perhaps?Cathy wrote:Take any line and ask what it actually means, and I think you would be hard pressed to find an answer.
I am not saying humanism is alone in having terrible verse, of course. Celtic Christian stuff is pretty dire as well.
- May 17th, 2012, 4:39 pm
- Forum: Humanism, secularism, freethought...
- Topic: Trying to define Humanism
- Replies: 116
- Views: 19794
Re: Trying to define Humanism
I don't think he is saying that the only way to be happy is to make others happy so I don't think your conclusion follows. The fuller quotation is: Justice is the only worship. Love is the only priest. Ignorance is the only slavery. Happiness is the only good. The time to be happy is now, The place...
- May 17th, 2012, 1:05 pm
- Forum: Miscellaneous Discussions...
- Topic: Free Speech, Minority "Rights" and the ASA
- Replies: 30
- Views: 3082
Re: Free Speech, Minority "Rights" and the ASA
Waddya think? Given that this is a political statement, made with a view to influencing public and legislative opinion, I think its examination by the ASA raises an interesting question. Political parties claim all sorts of tosh on both/all sides, particularly at election time. Are we going to see ...