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Dave B wrote:
Alan, I received an email thanking me for my taking part in the survey and repeating my responses but I could see no "confirming" link to click on. Thus I sent you a copy of my comments on the Red Tape page - was that enough?

This was my personal comment:
"I feel that homoeopathy should never be considered a medical treatment beyond the placebo effect. All containers for these so-called remedies should carry a declaration that there is no scientific evidence that they have any effect on the body due to their chemical or physical nature. Homoeopathic treatment should not be available on the NHS as a free service."

I think you need to hit 'reply' and 'send' when you get the confirmation email rather than clicking on a link.

I hope so anyway, cos that's what I did.

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April 6th, 2012, 5:19 pm
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'Allo, 'allo, summat strange here!

I tried to quote your post, jdc, but all I got was the quote you made of my prior post - your own additions did not appear!

Anyway, I think you are right, just so used to other sites requiring that you click on a link to confirm it was you. So, I wonder if my reply did the trick since in included what you suggest - hitting reply and sending.

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April 6th, 2012, 6:08 pm
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Dave B wrote:
Alan, I received an email thanking me for my taking part in the survey and repeating my responses but I could see no "confirming" link to click on. Thus I sent you a copy of my comments on the Red Tape page - was that enough?
Sorry! I missed this - yes, all you had to do was reply to the email, but there's no need to do that now. It's just a way of weeding out the spammers.

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'Allo, 'allo, summat strange here!

I tried to quote your post, jdc, but all I got was the quote you made of my prior post - your own additions did not appear!
Odd!

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Anyway, I think you are right, just so used to other sites requiring that you click on a link to confirm it was you. So, I wonder if my reply did the trick since in included what you suggest - hitting reply and sending.
Yes, we got your response OK. Asking people to reply to the email was our way of verifying that they are real and was easier than trying to do it with a link. Sorry if it was confusing!

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April 6th, 2012, 6:12 pm
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Looks like the people of Plymouth are in for a treat - Plymouth Skeptics in the Pub. Fortunately that includes me. :smile:


April 7th, 2012, 2:21 pm
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The Nightingale Collaboration: Red Tape Challenge Survey deadline extended

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April 7th, 2012, 2:22 pm
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Stark wrote:
Looks like the people of Plymouth are in for a treat - Plymouth Skeptics in the Pub. Fortunately that includes me. :smile:
Hey! See you there!

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April 7th, 2012, 2:22 pm
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We have a joint letter in The Times today: http://www.rpharms.com/what-s-happening ... asp?id=522
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30/04/2012 - Herbal medicine manufacturers by-passing the THR claims RPS in The Times

Herbal medicine manufacturers by-passing the THR claims RPS in The Times

The RPS has marked the first anniversary of the Traditional Herbal Medicine Registration Scheme with a letter in the Times expressing concerns that manufacturers are by-passing the Scheme and selling remedies as food supplements instead. Registering a herbal product under the THR means quality and safety are assured so both you and your patients know the dose and content on the label are what’s in the bottle.

The responsibility for defining a remedy as a food supplement lies with regulators and advisory bodies. The RPS believes they need to be much clearer about rejecting medicines masquerading as food supplements and crack down on manufacturers who are avoiding safety and quality tests on their products.

If you provide herbal medicines in your pharmacy, we suggest you recommend products marked with the THR or PL licence number.

Read the letter to The Times which was co-signed by other concerned groups:

Sir,

Companies are misleading consumers and putting their health at risk by selling herbal products labelled as food supplements instead of complying with the requirements of the new Traditional Herbal Medicine Registration Scheme.

The new scheme was introduced on the 30th April 2011 to ensure the safety and quality of medicinal herbs available for self-selection by customers for self-limiting minor ailments.

The registration of a herbal product as a traditional herbal medicine guarantees it contains the stated amount of the specified herb and the absence of dangerous adulterants such as heavy metals. Registered herbal medicines must be sold with a patient information leaflet with safety information for customers.

Far less stringent safety and quality requirements apply to products sold as herbal food supplements. Some herbal products labelled as food supplements are being sold at higher concentrations than the same herbal medicine registered under the new scheme. For example, the MHRA recently reported Black Cohosh was being sold as a food supplement at 50 times the dose of the registered herbal medicine, putting consumers at risk of liver damage.

It is important to recognise that just because something is considered natural it does not mean it is safe. We believe there is a need for clear and unambiguous definitions of what constitutes a herbal medicine and a food supplement to enable consumers to make safe and informed choices about their health.

PROFESSOR JAYNE LAWRENCE, CHIEF SCIENCE ADVISOR, ROYAL PHARMACEUTICAL SOCIETY
EDZARD ERNST, PROFESSOR OF COMPLEMENTARY MEDICINE, PENINSULA MEDICAL SCHOOL
LORD TAVERNE, SENSE ABOUT SCIENCE
THE NIGHTINGALE COLLBORATION

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April 30th, 2012, 5:13 pm
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Well done, Alan! :thumbsup:


April 30th, 2012, 5:32 pm
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Yes, well done.

Though the NC obviously had some standing before I assume that such "co-signings" are an indication as to how the professional world view your work. There are times for feather spittin' rhetoric are possibly required and times when calm logic does the job.

Shame I never seem have the patience to apply the latter for the length of time it often requires!

Well done again.

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Well done, Alan!

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May 1st, 2012, 3:58 pm
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Another newsletter just after midnight tonight... :-)

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May 1st, 2012, 4:54 pm
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Hold the front page!!! :D


May 1st, 2012, 5:24 pm
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The latest news items:

Homeopathy clinic toes the line

(See what I did there?)

Regulation of health care professionals

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June 4th, 2012, 8:36 pm
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Got the newsletter today. Can I just say what a fantastic job you at The Nightingale Collaboration do, and long may you continue.

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The Nightingale Collaboration: We need your help!

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June 14th, 2012, 9:05 pm
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And...advert for cancer teleseminar on What Doctors Don't Tell You http://www.wddty.com and http://www.lynnemctaggart.com removed after visit from Trading Standards.

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Alan H wrote:
The Nightingale Collaboration: We need your help!
Survey done.

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June 15th, 2012, 9:22 am
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Tetenterre wrote:
Survey done.
Thanks! We've had several responses already.

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