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October 17th, 2010, 12:24 am
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He's kidding - it'll be nowt much.



Right again, Jaywhat.


*Sigh*





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October 17th, 2010, 1:04 am
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I was wrong Nick. It wasn't 'nowt much' - it was much


October 17th, 2010, 9:09 am
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Yup, I reckon that this sort of organisation has been and is needed. There have been many individuals doing this work for a long time now, mostly on the Web, but this is a chance to take the work out into the real world, for anyone to get involved.

I do slightly wonder though what caveats are needed to prevent volunteers getting into dodgy legal positions - there are some litigious people out there and members of the public do not have the kudos and backing that the Simon Singhs of the world might attract.

You may have to get volunteers to sign an agreement to stick to the rules in case they go OTT in a demo or something and you have to dissociate yourselves from their actions.

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October 17th, 2010, 10:27 am
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jaywhat wrote:
I was wrong Nick. It wasn't 'nowt much' - it was much

Aye! Indeed it is summat, Jaywhat!

(but not good for insomnia...)


Alan & Maria, I take my hat off to you for your efforts, and wish you stonking success. Do protect yourselves, though.


October 17th, 2010, 10:42 am
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Getting back to insomnia . . .

I suffered a lot from this problem, decidedly so in the year before my heart attack. But it continued for a long time, partly caused by, or so it seemed, small pains, mainly aching hips from bursitis and indigestion (possibly from the statin I take).

The bursitis I tried to help with pain killers, though I am not allowed the "best" ones since these interfere with my warfarin to make my blood too thin. I could take them all the time and adjust the warfarin but most pain killers loose their efficacy when used long term. Others (Ibroprufen for e.g.) cause gastritis in me.

It was an abdominal pain that could either be cardiac or gastric that caused a bit of a clue. I was put on Omeprazole to reduce acid production. I immediately started to sleep better!

It is not unusual for older people to have an in-out sleep pattern it seems but I begin to wonder if it is those small pains, that we so often just accept as being part of increasing years that are part of the problem. It could be worth "watching" for them, keeping a diary, and seeing if some sort of treatment might be available.

Now, if only I can find a way of not needing to visit the loo so often at night . . .

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October 17th, 2010, 12:21 pm
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Have you seen your doc about your nocturnal loo trips, dave? He/she may be able to help.

I have been wakened up by my crazy dog. He has lately taken a dislike to sleeping in our bedroom at night with the other dog-something he has done since the first day we got him. He repeatedly nudged me untill I eventually relented and let him back downstairs to sleep in the garage (!!). On returning to bed the remaining dog decided he needed a pee, so I had to get up again. Now I have one (old) dog lying at my feet and the crazy dog (he wanted out the garage again) lying at the top of the stairs. I am now wide awake!

I have to meet a friend on the beach first thing tomorrow. I'll never be able to get up.

Tomorrow night he goes in the garage. Full stop.

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October 27th, 2010, 3:23 am
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Have you seen your doc about your nocturnal loo trips, dave? He/she may be able to help.
Yup, no solution offered just advice to reduce the amount of liquid drunk after 6pm. But to make sure that I still get the required amount each day. I have tried adjusting the times of my diuretics with no difference.

The only thing that helps seems to be half a bottle of wine and half a pizza. :D (But that only only happens twice a month.)

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October 27th, 2010, 10:13 pm
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My turn tonight - terrible earache. On the Erythromycin, but it may take another day or so to calm down.

Now beginning to get hungry - may have an early breakfast...

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April 2nd, 2011, 6:01 am
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Early morning munchies are one of the few bonuses of disturbed nights. I work on the basis that calories consumed between midnight and 7am are negative ones! Double bacon sarnies have been known to have been consumed in these hours.

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April 2nd, 2011, 9:42 am
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My turn again. I have a cold and taking Lemsips, but woke up an hour or so ago coughing. Thought I'd better come downstairs so I didn't wake up Her Ladyship...

Checked my email, TH and read a few other sites. A cup of tea is in order now, methinks!

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April 23rd, 2011, 4:49 am
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What a lot of wankers there are in the world. Not just wankers, stupid wankers to boot. I've just spent the last hour taking (online) to a woman who has rehomed a german shepherd (fully grown) who has not been socialised at all and who is agressive to (wait for it):

dogs
cats
men
women
children (especially children)

the dog is also afraid of just about everything.
This woman has a 4 year old child (who does not live with her) and she complains that the dog lunges and "goes for" him whenever he sees him. She thinks that's OK because she puts a muzzle on the dog when her son comes by!!!!!!!!!!!! She came inline to ask for advice. When advised that she needed to seek preofessional help, she said she couldn't affod it and could someone not just tell her what to do!

I'm afraid I told her a few home truths and advised her to contact one of the rescue organisations. I think it would be fair to say that she doesn't like me very much (though, as I pointed out to her) her quick (and pretty vitriolic) temper doesn't augar (pft! spelling) well for her manageing this dog at all.

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I have never owned a dog (though I have "sat" a couple over the years) but it never ceases to amaze me that so many dog owners, some of years standing, do not know the slightest thing about dog psychology!

Sounds like the fear the dog feels could be the prime problem - that takes possibly years of slow, careful work to overcome from what I have seen.

It is about time that there was a proper license for anyone wanting to have a dog (not for the dog but for the person) that involved some sort of written test and a realistic fee. Plus compulsory insurance per dog.

Sorry about people that simply want a companion dog and wouldn't pass the test or be able to pay the fee, but . . . Maybe a charity to train companion dogs could be set up for this purpose with such certified dogs attracting a lower license fee and cheaper insurance rate?

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April 25th, 2011, 10:28 am
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I caught a cold last week and suffered over last Friday/Saturday. It's been a lot better since, but I woke half an hour ago with a coughing fit. Hence I'm here, after trying a drink of water to ease it... Hopefully, it'll ease and I can get back to bed...zzzz....

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July 21st, 2011, 5:22 am
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Good luck with it Alan. I do not have insomnia but if I am awake about 5.30 am (whish is usual) I just get up. This usually means a nap in the afternoon and I guess I am lucky being 'retired'.


July 21st, 2011, 6:50 am
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I'm still up...designed a business card and it is ready for the order to be placed when I trust myself to check it more thoroughly!

Throat still feeling ticklish...but really should get back to bed for some sleep...but my stomach wants some cereal...

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3:20 AM here in the Wild West and I have yet to sleep a single minute. AARGH

In the morning (few short hours away) the cleaners are coming to shampoo the carpets in two rooms and clean one set of furniture. The time is long overdue for some major efforts in this house. That is as good a place to start as any.

If I weren't so bleedin' lazy, the master bedroom would get a coat of paint...but...

Well, I am going to try sleeping again. My typing is so bad that I have had to make many corrections. Forgive me for any missed errors as my brain is a wee bit addled at this hour. :yawn: :sleep:

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July 21st, 2011, 10:29 am
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Sel wrote:
In the morning (few short hours away) the cleaners are coming to shampoo the carpets in two rooms and clean one set of furniture. The time is long overdue for some major efforts in this house. That is as good a place to start as any.
Can you send them round here after they've finished?

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Yes the wood service usually does it for me ! Or else i play a cd of I'm Sorry I Havent a Clue with H Lyttleton or Jack Dee nowadays.

They are good programmes I fall asleep- i think it stops me thinking too much / mind racing....

God luck with it all .


July 23rd, 2011, 8:52 pm
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Laurence wrote:
the wood service usually does it for me !


Is that where they send the poor actors? The poor tennis start? Fill the stove? Varnish the banisters? :D

I know, I fully deserve for it to be my turn tonight :redface:
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