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Are there Humanist Missionaries? Should there be?
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Are there Humanist Missionaries? Should there be?
Are there Humanist missionaries?
Re: Are there Humanist Missionaries? Should there be?
I don't think that "humanist missionaries," in the same form as religious ditto, really fit in with the humanist ideal.
The function of the classical missionary is to capture (by offering a service such as medicine or education) an audience and then convert them to your way of thinking. That's a kind of bribery and less than ethical.
Humanism, in my understanding, offers free choice, free thought. If it is not for "you" then that is the end of it. By all means advertise and offer the values of Humanism but if the individual does not want to accept that is up to them.
Street preachers have a kind of advantage above passive postering, but I do wonder how many converts they get! I would not like to see humabists shouting their beliefs in public - but I would like to see more chances to let people know the true values of Humanism.
The function of the classical missionary is to capture (by offering a service such as medicine or education) an audience and then convert them to your way of thinking. That's a kind of bribery and less than ethical.
Humanism, in my understanding, offers free choice, free thought. If it is not for "you" then that is the end of it. By all means advertise and offer the values of Humanism but if the individual does not want to accept that is up to them.
Street preachers have a kind of advantage above passive postering, but I do wonder how many converts they get! I would not like to see humabists shouting their beliefs in public - but I would like to see more chances to let people know the true values of Humanism.
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Re: Are there Humanist Missionaries? Should there be?
During the Bengal Famine between 1769 and 1773 ten million Bengalies died (33% of the current population). During that famine, Christian Missionaries offered food to the starving as long as the starving first converted to Christianity. Christian Missionaries have used this approach in other parts of the world during times of crisis to gain converts. No wonder Christianity is the most populous religion on Earth.Dave B wrote:I don't think that "humanist missionaries," in the same form as religious ditto, really fit in with the humanist ideal.
The function of the classical missionary is to capture (by offering a service such as medicine or education) an audience and then convert them to your way of thinking. That's a kind of bribery and less than ethical.
Humanism, in my understanding, offers free choice, free thought. If it is not for "you" then that is the end of it. By all means advertise and offer the values of Humanism but if the individual does not want to accept that is up to them.
Street preachers have a kind of advantage above passive postering, but I do wonder how many converts they get! I would not like to see humabists shouting their beliefs in public - but I would like to see more chances to let people know the true values of Humanism.
I don't know how effective street preachers are. I don't think there is any stats available on this. Humanism lacks the carrot of eternal heaven and the stick of eternal hell. Also, humanists don't coerce desperate people to convert to humanism. It is unlikely that we will see billions of people becoming humanists in a hurry.
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If the effort spent coercing needy folk to any religion was spent in wholly attending to human needs our planet would be in a much better place now. Care should be unconditional and solely focussed on the human need.
Many Humanists, and folk with religion, work with wonderful organisations such as the Red Cross and MSF. To my mind there is no place for proselytising in care for our fellow humans.
Many Humanists, and folk with religion, work with wonderful organisations such as the Red Cross and MSF. To my mind there is no place for proselytising in care for our fellow humans.
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Re: Are there Humanist Missionaries? Should there be?
I agree. Well said.Fia wrote:If the effort spent coercing needy folk to any religion was spent in wholly attending to human needs our planet would be in a much better place now. Care should be unconditional and solely focussed on the human need.
Many Humanists, and folk with religion, work with wonderful organisations such as the Red Cross and MSF. To my mind there is no place for proselytising in care for our fellow humans.
Re: Are there Humanist Missionaries? Should there be?
Me also.
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I agree that we don't need humanists knocking on doors or haranguing us on street corners; but I applaud less obnoxious messages such as the Freedom From Religion Foundations' billboard campaign. I think we could use more of that.
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Godd stuff, them posters, Ron.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Re: Are there Humanist Missionaries? Should there be?
I can't decide if that was just a typo or if you're being clever, but either way --Dave B wrote:Godd stuff, them posters, Ron.Thanks.
Re: Are there Humanist Missionaries? Should there be?
Since I am working on my tablet it could be a typo - I miss keys with the dibber (typing g for h in "the" seems to be my fave).Ron Webb wrote:I can't decide if that was just a typo or if you're being clever, but either way --Dave B wrote:Godd stuff, them posters, Ron.Thanks.
But I have benn known to "stuuter" where double leteers are concerned.
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Re: Are there Humanist Missionaries? Should there be?
I agree. They don't have any such billboards here in Northern Ireland.Ron Webb wrote:I agree that we don't need humanists knocking on doors or haranguing us on street corners; but I applaud less obnoxious messages such as the Freedom From Religion Foundations' billboard campaign. I think we could use more of that.
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Why do you think that is Compassionist? Do you think that Northern Ireland is more religious than the rest of the UK, or maybe less tolerant of 'no religion'?
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No comment about their religiosity but I go for an overload of bigotry compared to the rest of the population!stevenw888 wrote:Why do you think that is Compassionist? Do you think that Northern Ireland is more religious than the rest of the UK, or maybe less tolerant of 'no religion'?
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Re: Are there Humanist Missionaries? Should there be?
Most people here are Christian of one brand or another.Dave B wrote:No comment about their religiosity but I go for an overload of bigotry compared to the rest of the population!stevenw888 wrote:Why do you think that is Compassionist? Do you think that Northern Ireland is more religious than the rest of the UK, or maybe less tolerant of 'no religion'?