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The making of the Perfect Humanist

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John Jones
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The making of the Perfect Humanist

#1 Postby John Jones » October 26th, 2010, 3:53 pm

Irrational experiences seem to stubbornly persist among certain individuals.

Only by genetic engineering and chemical interventions can such experiences be permanantly eliminated from the human genome and psyche. Brain surgery might be too drastic, too limited, but would be called for in severe cases.

Only with the elimination of thoughts that have no basis in reality can we realise our true, human nature. We all know what these irrational thoughts are, and only by being eternally vigilant can we expose others who stubbornly keep getting such thoughts.

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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#2 Postby jaywhat » October 26th, 2010, 4:13 pm

There is no such thing as 'true human nature'. We evolve as we evolve. This is where we have got to so far.

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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#3 Postby Alan C. » October 26th, 2010, 4:52 pm

Irrational experiences seem to stubbornly persist among certain individuals.
Mainly religious individuals.
Abstinence Makes the Church Grow Fondlers.

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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#4 Postby Nick » October 26th, 2010, 4:52 pm

I used to be conceited, but now I'm perfect. :innocence:

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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#5 Postby Ken H » October 26th, 2010, 8:52 pm

Nick wrote:I used to be conceited, but now I'm perfect. :innocence:

Nick, that's an irrational thought! A lobotomy or chemical intervention is indicated. :D
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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#6 Postby Alan H » October 26th, 2010, 8:53 pm

Ken H wrote:
Nick wrote:I used to be conceited, but now I'm perfect. :innocence:

Nick, that's an irrational thought! A lobotomy or chemical intervention is indicated. :D
He gets the chemical intervention every Thursday night in his local.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#7 Postby John Jones » October 26th, 2010, 10:25 pm

jaywhat wrote:There is no such thing as 'true human nature'. We evolve as we evolve. This is where we have got to so far.


We don't evolve. Nothing evolves.
When animals evolve they die out and new ones take their place. When animals become extinct they die out and new ones do not take their place.

With the giving up of our true nature we can retire in irrationality. That is why it is important to eliminate wrong thoughts. Wrong thoughts must be eliminated.

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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#8 Postby getreal » October 26th, 2010, 10:28 pm

*I really, really want another piece of chocolate cake*

Help! I've had a wrong thought. What should I do?
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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#9 Postby Alan C. » October 26th, 2010, 10:54 pm

JJ
That is why it is important to eliminate wrong thoughts. Wrong thoughts must be eliminated.
What do you define as "wrong thoughts"?
Abstinence Makes the Church Grow Fondlers.

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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#10 Postby Fia » October 26th, 2010, 11:07 pm

Are you a dalek for our brains, John?

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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#11 Postby getreal » October 26th, 2010, 11:35 pm

I'm having wrong thoughts about John.
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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#12 Postby Alan H » October 27th, 2010, 12:44 am

getreal wrote:I'm having wrong thoughts about John.
STOP THAT NOW! He might not like it.
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There are three fundamental questions for anyone advocating Brexit:

1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#13 Postby Nick » October 27th, 2010, 10:14 am

Alan H wrote:
Ken H wrote:
Nick wrote:I used to be conceited, but now I'm perfect. :innocence:

Nick, that's an irrational thought! A lobotomy or chemical intervention is indicated. :D
He gets the chemical intervention every Thursday night in his local.

I'd rather have a bottle in front o' me than a frontal lobotomy.... :D

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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#14 Postby Nick » October 27th, 2010, 10:25 am

John Jones wrote:
jaywhat wrote:There is no such thing as 'true human nature'. We evolve as we evolve. This is where we have got to so far.


We don't evolve. Nothing evolves.
When animals evolve they die out and new ones take their place. When animals become extinct they die out and new ones do not take their place.

Don't let Paolo catch you! :shock: You clearly have no idea what evolution means.

John Jones wrote:With the giving up of our true nature we can retire in irrationality. That is why it is important to eliminate wrong thoughts. Wrong thoughts must be eliminated.
What do you suggest? Whips? A cilice, perhaps? Or maybe just ten minutes sitting on the naughty step?

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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#15 Postby Gottard » October 27th, 2010, 11:32 am

I thought the 14'-15' centuries, the inquisition etc. were bygone times. Someone might still be immortal :sad2:
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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#16 Postby ludite » October 27th, 2010, 6:14 pm

I am always having wrong thouhts I just hope the wife doesn't find out.

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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#17 Postby thundril » October 27th, 2010, 9:00 pm

I suggest there is no such thing as a wrong thought.
Some actions are certainly wrong, (IMO) but the only wrong thought is thoughtlessness.

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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#18 Postby lewist » October 27th, 2010, 10:18 pm

They didn't mention Nick's music therapy along with his medicine on Thursday evenings. I'm sure it's very calming. :)
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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#19 Postby John Jones » October 28th, 2010, 2:13 pm

getreal wrote:*I really, really want another piece of chocolate cake*

Help! I've had a wrong thought. What should I do?



You should get out of here. Isn't that what happens to everyone else who has wrong thoughts here?

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Re: The making of the Perfect Humanist

#20 Postby John Jones » October 28th, 2010, 2:19 pm

thundril wrote:I suggest there is no such thing as a wrong thought.
Some actions are certainly wrong, (IMO) but the only wrong thought is thoughtlessness.



Here's a wrong thought:
I said to myself "man was made whole".
And then something else, a non-physical autonomous agent in the corner of the room said back to me,
"if we were made whole why are we alone?"

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