Nick wrote:Maybe it's just me, but I find the Woodcraft Folk's material extremely creepy. It sounds more like the extreme youth wing of the Red Brigades....
Care to explain that Nick? What is wrong with
The Woodcraft Folk is an educational movement for children and young people, which aims to develop self confidence and activity in society, with the aim of building a world based on equality, friendship, peace and co-operation.
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No religion, engendering our offspring with self confidence and a basis for them to make their world better, rather than relying on superstition. It's the fall-back of the religious who can't think of anything better to throw at us atheists/humanists/freethinkers than "look at Stalin".
Prawnjoe: I understand your dilemma. As a child in the middle of the last century the local guide movement provided me with many things I would never have experienced otherwise. Team spirit, survival skills, enduring friendships. I endured the religious crap. But when it came to my daughters, there wasn't a Woodcraft group, and i didn't have the time to set one up, so I volunteered to help with the brownies and guides. All was well until the District Commissioner discovered I was changing one word of taps, from "god is nigh" to "peace is nigh". The girls found my approach interesting as i fully explained why I was doing it, we had some very interesting conversations. But it was made clear my approach was not welcome.
So with no Woodcraft group with my daughters we did (and still do it) it ourselves. We trekked the hills with maps and compasses, built fires, cooked and camped out usually with a myriad of others in tow. Had great conversations and songs over the campfire. Visited the housebound in our community, talked with and shopped and cleaned for them. So I'd either recommend the Woodcrafters or DIY...
Edited to say: Where are my manners?
prawnjoe