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Re: Complementary therapies

#541 Postby getreal » July 11th, 2013, 11:02 pm

Latest post of the previous page:

thanks for clearing thaqt up for me. Alan.

I must say, those organisations are somewhat less impressive than the ones I posted.
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Re: Complementary therapies

#542 Postby Dave B » July 12th, 2013, 8:46 am

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Definite feeling of irony about those two . . .
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Re: Complementary therapies

#543 Postby Dave B » July 13th, 2013, 1:49 pm

Looking for symptoms of arthritis I clicked on the Arthritis Research site and found they mention CAM but are very cagey in what they say - no claims of anything of course! But still a sort of propaganda for the quacks.

Looking further into it, especially the herbs/supplements section, they claim RCTs that gave positive results for some compounds.
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Re: Complementary therapies

#544 Postby Alan H » August 11th, 2013, 10:54 pm

Many quacks have their own definition of 'chemicals' and believe they are all nasty toxic things wot kill you:

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Re: Complementary therapies

#545 Postby jdc » August 12th, 2013, 1:39 am

I've got some questions about that ingredients list.

1. Where's the protein?
2. Should fatty acids be listed separately or come under "vegetable oils"?
3. What is E306? It's listed as "tocopherol", but is it a tocopherol-rich extract? Or is it alpha, beta, gamma, or delta tocopherol?
4. Should "linolic acid" be "linoleic acid"?
5. Should "potasium" be "potassium"?
6. To comply with the relevant regulations, the ingredients should be in descending order of weight. Now, I looked up the USDA database entry for raw apple with peel: http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/ ... +with+skin and ascorbic acid is listed at 4.6mg with riboflavin at 0.026mg. Yet riboflavin appears before ascorbic acid in the ingredients list. Why?
7. Hang on. Where's thiamine? There's 0.017mg in a raw apple. Why can't I see it on the ingredients list? Folate is mentioned and there's only 0.003mg of that in a raw apple. Other components such as B6 and vitamin K seem to be missing - a shame as pyridoxine and phylloquinone sound suitably chemically.
8. It seems the list is intended to demonstrate that 'chemicals' aren't nasty. Isn't oxalic acid a bit of a worry? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalic_ac ... and_safety

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Re: Complementary therapies

#546 Postby jdc » August 12th, 2013, 1:41 am

Ooh, I've spotted one. It's 100g of raw apple. Not "a raw apple". Sorry about that. My bad.
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Re: Complementary therapies

#547 Postby Dave B » August 12th, 2013, 9:26 am

I just like apples and eat two every day.
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Re: Complementary therapies

#548 Postby Alan H » August 16th, 2013, 1:27 pm

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Re: Complementary therapies

#549 Postby Dave B » August 16th, 2013, 1:41 pm

Had it been moxibustion there might have been a rational explanation . . .
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Re: Complementary therapies

#550 Postby Alan H » August 16th, 2013, 2:29 pm

Ha!

It is a send-up, of course, but it does illustrate the point that qi 'energy' isn't like 'ordinary, everyday' energy, of course and there are no units of measurement...
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Re: Complementary therapies

#551 Postby Alan H » October 16th, 2013, 10:15 am

Ask for evidence:

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Re: Complementary therapies

#552 Postby Tetenterre » October 16th, 2013, 12:36 pm

As ever, she is superb!
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Re: Complementary therapies

#553 Postby Alan H » February 1st, 2014, 1:08 pm

The best response to an anti-vaxer:

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Re: Complementary therapies

#554 Postby Dave B » February 1st, 2014, 2:08 pm

:thumbsup: to "Andy"
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Re: Complementary therapies

#555 Postby Alan H » March 9th, 2014, 8:19 pm

You may have seen Homeopathic A&E:



Now: Holistic ER:



But this is not so funny: Sweden Gets a Homeopathic ER
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2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: Complementary therapies

#556 Postby Alan C. » January 5th, 2015, 6:22 pm

Shetland, well: Lerwick has just gained a "Rolfing Practitioner", she must be after some of the 'chiropractors' business, :smile: I was most annoyed that the Shetland Times saw fit to dedicate a large column/advertisement to her arrival and I'll be making them aware of the fact.
I will also be taking a keen interest in the wording of any and all advertisements she may commission.

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They might like to re-brand with a different name, given the recent revelations.
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Re: Complementary therapies

#557 Postby Dave B » January 5th, 2015, 7:04 pm

PS
They might like to re-brand with a different name, given the recent revelations.
Yes, they might suffer some harrisment with that name.
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Re: Complementary therapies

#558 Postby Alan C. » March 1st, 2015, 9:49 pm

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Re: Complementary therapies

#559 Postby Alan H » March 1st, 2015, 10:35 pm

Alan Henness

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1. What, precisely, are the significant and tangible benefits of leaving the EU?
2. What damage to the UK and its citizens is an acceptable price to pay for those benefits?
3. Which ruling of the ECJ is most persuasive of the need to leave its jurisdiction?

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Re: Complementary therapies

#560 Postby Tetenterre » March 2nd, 2015, 10:16 am

Steve

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Re: Complementary therapies

#561 Postby Ninny » March 3rd, 2015, 8:19 am

It seems that Prince William has struck a lucrative business deal in China, something to do with a traditional remedy now being available in UK over the counter, can't imagine what it is, but it was in the i, so must be true.


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